Wednesday, 13 May 2009

Okay, have the feckin bounty

Here's why a 3/90 knockout is so hard to win. Why am I playing them? I am just doing some nobrain poker because I enjoy it and there's no stress about results.

Full Tilt Poker Game #12188129467: $3 + $0.30 KO Sit & Go (91122751), Table 10 - 100/200 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:28:43 ET - 2009/05/12
Seat 1: Unpossible109 (7,270)
Seat 2: M-I-B--R-O-X (9,168)
Seat 3: basatagirl (5,395)
Seat 4: ELDUDEARENO28 (7,490)
Seat 5: Sal T Huevos (5,790)
Seat 6: 1snl333 (3,345), is sitting out
Seat 7: Smoke_Quack (2,175)
Seat 8: alejandruso (31,415)
Seat 9: DuallyDave (9,540)
1snl333 posts the small blind of 100
Smoke_Quack posts the big blind of 200
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to basatagirl [Kd Qc]
alejandruso folds
DuallyDave folds
Unpossible109 folds
M-I-B--R-O-X calls 200

A total fish who is playing tons of hands and limping often.
basatagirl raises to 800

I raise to isolate him. The players behind are not so loose and I've shown a couple of strong hands so I doubt I will get calls behind often.

Sal T Huevos folds
1snl333 folds
Smoke_Quack folds
M-I-B--R-O-X calls 600

The fish obv. calls.

*** FLOP *** [Jh 7c Qd]

Top pair. It's value time.

M-I-B--R-O-X bets 200

He could have anything. If I'm really lucky, QT. But a vast range of hands is possible. Qx Jx draws, who the fuck knows?

Or cares. I hit the flop I wanted and now I'm going to make him pay for limp/calling his weak range.

basatagirl raises to 2,200

I'm hoping to get shoved on by QT and obv. hoping he doesn't have QJ.

Or J7s, which he is bad enough to have limpcalled.

If he calls, I shove any turn, obv.

M-I-B--R-O-X calls 2,000

There is obv. no hand it would be correct to call with here.

*** TURN *** [Jh 7c Qd] [6d]
M-I-B--R-O-X checks
basatagirl bets 2,395, and is all in

Shove for value.

M-I-B--R-O-X calls 2,395
basatagirl shows [Kd Qc]
M-I-B--R-O-X shows [Tc Ad]

Erm, what?

Well, I'm a huge fav--
*** RIVER *** [Jh 7c Qd 6d] [As]


If you're a beginner and you want to learn how to play poker, not like that guy is the answer. Limp/calling AT is atrocious. Leading the flop is okay, but you have to make your lead bigger because I will obv. not fold anything for 200 chips. You have to fold to the raise on the flop. You could shove over if you had fold equity, but you don't. I'm committed to the pot. You might as well shove if you're continuing though, because you are also committed to it. On the turn, well, what can you do? You made your big mistake on the flop. Now you might as well take this terrible bet and hope to get lucky.


It's not all bad, of course. They often just miss:

Full Tilt Poker Game #12188195874: $6 + $0.50 KO Sit & Go (91122235), Table 1 - 120/240 Ante 25 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:32:27 ET - 2009/05/12
Seat 2: Subman II (3,980)
Seat 3: budman61 (1,600)
Seat 4: basatagirl (11,705)
Seat 5: tgoodwater2002 (6,200)
Seat 6: Thorrrrr (8,540)
Seat 7: francozeff (15,010)
Seat 8: fish6582 (5,330)
Seat 9: rtrorkt (11,573)
Subman II antes 25
budman61 antes 25
basatagirl antes 25
tgoodwater2002 antes 25
Thorrrrr antes 25
francozeff antes 25
fish6582 antes 25
rtrorkt antes 25
budman61 posts the small blind of 120
basatagirl posts the big blind of 240
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to basatagirl [Ac 2c]
tgoodwater2002 folds
Thorrrrr folds
francozeff folds
fish6582 folds
rtrorkt folds
Subman II folds
budman61 calls 120

Had only recently moved to table so not sure what he'd been playing like. My guess is bad though, just because 99% of players in this tourney will be awful.

basatagirl checks

I wasn't paying attention because I should shove over. He's only rarely trapping.

*** FLOP *** [As 2d 5h]

Hello. I has two pair.

budman61 bets 1,335, and is all in
basatagirl calls 1,335

Yeah, okay.
Say I had K5. Would I have folded?

Well no. His bet says, please fold. If he wanted me to call or shove over, he'd bet smaller. If he had an ace, he'd look to checkraise. Sometimes this metric doesn't work but you won't lose much money if you assume that they're not shoving an ace in this spot. The shove wants a fold here and no, I would not fold K5.

budman61 shows [3s Qs]

And I'd be right not to. Maybe I'd even call worse. Dunno. Never folding a pair though.


Here's a spot I missed, but I'm not too cut up about it.

Full Tilt Poker Game #12188399897: $6 + $0.50 KO Sit & Go (91122235), Table 1 - 200/400 Ante 50 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:43:52 ET - 2009/05/12
Seat 1: seba03 (19,490)
Seat 2: Subman II (2,015)
Seat 4: basatagirl (13,295)
Seat 5: tgoodwater2002 (4,415)
Seat 6: Thorrrrr (8,735)
Seat 7: francozeff (19,580)
Seat 8: fish6582 (4,510)
Seat 9: rtrorkt (11,558)
seba03 antes 50
Subman II antes 50
basatagirl antes 50
tgoodwater2002 antes 50
Thorrrrr antes 50
francozeff antes 50
fish6582 antes 50
rtrorkt antes 50
fish6582 posts the small blind of 200
rtrorkt posts the big blind of 400
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to basatagirl [8d 8h]
seba03 raises to 1,600

I only have ten hands on this guy, and he's raised twice. He hasn't limped.

So 88 is probably ahead of his range, but he has a big stack. I could make a thinnish call to setmine.

Subman II raises to 1,965, and is all in

I'm thinking about it, but this guy complicates matters. Now I'm thinking I want to shove over and isolate him. But will the first guy fold?

Maybe not, and I'm not necessarily happy against his range. He's under the gun, and even though these fish don't necessarily respect position, he raised 4x and may be trying to get value. Dunno.

Thing is, I have a decent stack and I will get clearer, better spots. This might be thin +EV but it didn't appeal at the time.

basatagirl folds
tgoodwater2002 folds
Thorrrrr folds
francozeff folds
fish6582 has 15 seconds left to act
fish6582 folds
rtrorkt calls 1,565

Awful player who could have anything.

seba03 calls 365
*** FLOP *** [9h Qh 6c]
rtrorkt bets 2,000

With his hand, this bet is terrible. You think he has to have at least a Q here.

seba03 folds
rtrorkt shows [7c 7h]

WTF. I mean, I understand that he is stopngoing to get it HU with the allin guy but I don't like it much.

Subman II shows [Ah Kh]

He's probably quite happy to be allin as a favourite. Me, I wish I had shoved pre and been called by fishtard. If I had called though, I would have had a really tough spot on the flop and I'd now be on monkey tilt if I'd folded.

Uncalled bet of 2,000 returned to rtrorkt
*** TURN *** [9h Qh 6c] [9c]
*** RIVER *** [9h Qh 6c 9c] [4c]

Would have been nice to be allin with fishtard, but tbh, these tourneys present so many clearcut spots that taking a marginal +EV spot isn't necessary. I doubled up in this game on a 7xx flop where I had 99 and had raised pre and some guy got it in with me with 88. That was the top of his range too. He'd happily have done it with a 7 or overcards.

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