Wednesday 8 July 2009

WTF hand of the week so far

It's not the decision to limp that boggles the mind and not the decision to call a raise after that. It's how this guy has the ability to find the on button on his computer:

PokerStars Game #30220353332: Tournament #177710269, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2009/07/08 2:18:18 ET
Table '177710269 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: FR Vessant (1560 in chips)
Seat 2: stunt chick (1725 in chips)
Seat 3: LindaLouStar (980 in chips)
Seat 4: Spay Nuter (1390 in chips)
Seat 5: rockxxx (1580 in chips)
Seat 6: barrazor (2120 in chips)
Seat 7: bonez_311 (1785 in chips)
Seat 8: Ultima24 (1080 in chips)
Seat 9: jtran86 (1280 in chips)
LindaLouStar: posts small blind 15
Spay Nuter: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Qc Ac]
rockxxx: folds
barrazor: folds
bonez_311: folds
Ultima24: calls 30
jtran86: folds
FR Vessant: raises 90 to 120

I make a fairly standard raise. I never like picking up AK/AQ, suited or otherwise, in the first couple of levels and I don't much like raising limpers because they never fold unless you hit.

stunt chick: folds
LindaLouStar: folds
Spay Nuter: calls 90
Ultima24: calls 90
*** FLOP *** [Jd 8h 9d]
Spay Nuter: checks
Ultima24: checks
FR Vessant: checks

Not betting that flop because there's just so much for a fish to like there.

*** TURN *** [Jd 8h 9d] [Ks]
Spay Nuter: checks
Ultima24: checks
FR Vessant: checks

Could bet there, but then I'm just hating so many rivers.

*** RIVER *** [Jd 8h 9d Ks] [Kd]
Spay Nuter: checks
Ultima24: checks
FR Vessant: checks

I guess I'll just show my hand down and hope they have...

well, I dunno. there's pretty much nothing I can be beating except crappy aces. So I have to check.

*** SHOW DOWN ***
Spay Nuter: shows [3c Ad] (a pair of Kings)

Crappy ace, sure enough. Why do these clowns call with them? I am quite likely to have a bigger ace and if I don't, and an ace comes, you're unlikely to get paid. So you can only win a small pot or lose a big one.

Ultima24: shows [6h 9s] (two pair, Kings and Nines)

What. The. Fuck. I can't even imagine a rationale for playing that. Maybe he folded the previous hand and was bored. Maybe he feels it will be disguised if he hits. Erm, yes.


Anyway, this is more usual. I suppose the fish was unlucky that he couldn't make any money when he got lucky, but I think against those parts of my range that he could make money from, his line sucks some.

PokerStars Game #30220404105: Tournament #177708932, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2009/07/08 2:21:47 ET
Table '177708932 1' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: over-vert (1200 in chips)
Seat 3: titralac (4715 in chips)
Seat 4: the bl12ade (1230 in chips)
Seat 5: huggyville (1020 in chips)
Seat 6: pc318318 (1310 in chips)
Seat 8: rafmd (2460 in chips)
Seat 9: FR Vessant (1565 in chips)
huggyville: posts small blind 15
pc318318: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Kd Ah]
rafmd: calls 30

I'll tell you now, he has 22. So that's reasonable to limp. You might consider it more prudent to fold because you're likely to be raised and that will make it expensive, but actually this table is quite passive in the few hands we've played, so it's not such a bad gamble.

FR Vessant: raises 90 to 120
over-vert: folds
titralac: folds
the bl12ade: folds
huggyville: folds
pc318318: folds
rafmd: calls 90

But now he should fold. It's too much money to call to try to hit a set and my range is not narrow enough to guarantee stacking me unless you get the right flop.

*** FLOP *** [2d 3s 5s]

Which this one isn't.

rafmd: checks
FR Vessant: checks

I check behind obv. because even though it's unlikely he hit the flop, he's unlikely to fold to a cbet here. He can convince himself to continue with overcards and obv. folding a pair would be out of the question for him.

In his shoes, I'd probably bet. If I have an overpair, I'm going to raise, and he can then often get it in. If I don't, I'm not all that likely to cbet this flop and you are hoping that I hit something that I like on the next two streets.

*** TURN *** [2d 3s 5s] [Tc]
rafmd: checks

The fish's urge to trap overcomes any idea of actually making value with his monster. I suppose once I checked the flop back, it's okay not to force the action, because my most likely hand is AK/AQ and I'm not calling a bet with that.

FR Vessant: checks

*** RIVER *** [2d 3s 5s Tc] [Qd]
rafmd: bets 150

Finally, he takes a stab. It's safe, of course. I'm pretty unlikely to have a pair of Qs and AQ is strongly in my range.

FR Vessant said, "sigh"
FR Vessant said, "I have a bad feeling you actually have a Q"

LOL. I was kind of tempted to call because my hand is often good but meh.

FR Vessant: folds
Uncalled bet (150) returned to rafmd
rafmd collected 285 from pot
rafmd: shows [2s 2h] (three of a kind, Deuces)

How we laughed.

Later, I gave him a lesson in why limpcalling is bad:

PokerStars Game #30220786852: Tournament #177708932, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2009/07/08 2:49:13 ET
Table '177708932 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 3: titralac (3837 in chips)
Seat 5: huggyville (3495 in chips)
Seat 8: rafmd (4493 in chips)
Seat 9: FR Vessant (1675 in chips)
titralac: posts small blind 75
huggyville: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [As Ah]
rafmd: calls 150
rafmd said, "ty"
FR Vessant: raises 300 to 450

I know, it's ridicutarded, but it sucks a ton if you push and he folds, which he just might have.

titralac: folds
huggyville: folds
rafmd: calls 300
*** FLOP *** [5d Td 7s]
rafmd: bets 600

Well, let's hope he doesn't have 77 or some retarded shit like 75s.


FR Vessant: raises 625 to 1225 and is all-in

Drop the boom.

rafmd: calls 625

He has KdTh.

*** TURN *** [5d Td 7s] [2d]

So that turn is a bit stressful.

*** RIVER *** [5d Td 7s 2d] [3c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
rafmd: shows [Kd Th] (a pair of Tens)
FR Vessant: shows [As Ah] (a pair of Aces)
FR Vessant collected 3575 from pot

I know, how come I'm losing money in this company. Beats me too.

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