Some guy on 2p2 asked me for coaching. He was angling for free help by buttering me up, but I don't have time, so I said I'd do it for money (not much money -- 30/hr if you want to learn how to crush) and he asked what would be the best way to gain from coaching and how you should do it. So I said this:
There are three indispensable skills if you want to win using a 2p2-type strategy: 1/ Hand selection 2/ Not ****ing up postflop and 3/ most importantly, late game.
In 1, you have to know which hands to play in which spots, which hands you'll threebet, which hands you'll shove over limpers, which hands you'll resteal with against which players. Some of this you can figure out for yourself, some you can be taught, some you just get a feel for as you play.
In 2, there are different approaches, but the most important thing is not to make the bigger mistakes your opponents make: not to stack off light with top pair, not to go broke in unraised pots with hands that are easily beaten, not to chase draws; and more positively, to bet strong hands hard, to apply aggression correctly and to understand bet sizing and have some idea of what your opponents are trying to do. An appreciation of range-based thinking and play is essential, because this is the foundation of good poker.
In 3, you need to know when to push and when to fold. This involves understanding ICM above all, and working through spots in a program like SNG Wizard, which is an essential purchase for anyone who wants to improve at STTs. I don't have a lot of time to study ICM, which is one reason I don't play turbos too much (regular speeds are more forgiving of patchy late-game knowledge), but there are good and bad ways to use it imo.
If you get anyone to help you with your game, you need them first of all to understand what you know. To do that, they need either to sweat you or to go through a HH in a replayer. They can do this without your presence, but tbh talking to a player about why they played their hands a particular way lets you know whether they get it or not. You know what I mean? Someone might do something differently from the way I would, and I'll ask them why. If you understand the game, your answer will make sense to me, if you don't, the flaw in your understanding becomes apparent. Most people have glaring leaks because they just dont' understand areas of the game, or spots that they are in. This is true of everyone bar the very best: I'm a moderate player and I definitely don't know it all.
I'll be honest with you. Coaching has a value in STTs, but it's limited, because a lot of the knowledge you need is gained through experience and work that you have to do for yourself. So it's valuable to have someone talk through some games with you, and explain broadly where you're going wrong/what you're doing right, but they can't teach you push/fold -- you have to study that for yourself. Having said that, if you are very much a learner, either being sweated or going through a HH in a replayer will work -- using Skype and Teamviewer or similar. I think the second is best because there's no time pressure and you can explain your thought process.
Monday, 20 July 2009
Saturday, 18 July 2009
Omahahahahhahahahdfhdhfdhfhdhdhfhdhshshshhs
I thought this was quite interesting. I am playing a $2 PL Omaha 8 tourney (I know, shoot me) because I'm an addict but can't concentrate enough to play anything worthwhile, when this hand came up.
Full Tilt Poker Game #13462676090: $2 + 0.25 Tournament (99453018), Table 10 - 30/60 - Pot Limit Omaha H/L - 3:54:16 ET - 2009/07/18
Seat 1: superiorbath (5,325)
Seat 2: Darkdeck (1,316)
Seat 3: SexulHrsmntPnda (4,494)
Seat 4: SusieOh (938)
Seat 5: ASD-OCD (4,811)
Seat 6: basatagirl (4,863)
Seat 7: KYKenny (1,339)
Seat 8: RAGS2RICHESXXX (1,587)
Seat 9: daveteezeeme (2,068)
superiorbath posts the small blind of 30
Darkdeck posts the big blind of 60
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to basatagirl [3c 4d Ks Ac]
SexulHrsmntPnda folds
SusieOh folds
ASD-OCD calls 60
basatagirl calls 60
It's reasonable to limp this in this game, where there is very little aggression.
KYKenny calls 60
RAGS2RICHESXXX folds
daveteezeeme calls 60
superiorbath calls 30
Darkdeck checks
*** FLOP *** [8c 8d 2c]
superiorbath checks
Darkdeck bets 120
Doesn't have to have much for that.
ASD-OCD calls 120
This is terrible with his actual hand.
basatagirl calls 120
I call with nut low draw and nut flush draw. If no one has or hits a boat, I could scoop.
KYKenny folds
daveteezeeme calls 120
superiorbath folds
*** TURN *** [8c 8d 2c] [6c]
So I have my flush and the nut low. There aren't too many hands I'm going to hate being against here.
Darkdeck checks
ASD-OCD bets 420
basatagirl raises to 2,100
Pot raise. I don't mind if he comes with me now.
daveteezeeme folds
Darkdeck folds
ASD-OCD raises to 4,631, and is all in
basatagirl calls 2,531
Easy call. He can have me beat for high, but can only chop low, and it has to be unlikely he has it.
ASD-OCD shows [3s 8s Jd 2h]
Fucking awful. He should never limp this pre. It's a dog. 32xx is a trouble hand in OH and he has nothing else going on really.
On the flop, he has high sewn up obviously, but slowplaying it is horrible. Why let
me hit my low for free? I am supposing he thinks he will get more from a flush if it hits, but there's a decent wedge in the pot, and if someone hits a low, he gives up half of what's already there. He has nothing to lose by pumping the pot.
*** RIVER *** [8c 8d 2c 6c] [2d]
ASD-OCD shows a full house, Eights full of Twos, for high
basatagirl shows a flush, Ace high, for high and 8,6,3,2,A, for low
ASD-OCD wins the high pot (5,051) with a full house, Eights full of Twos
basatagirl wins the low pot (5,051) with 8,6,3,2,A
So that sucks a bit, not least that he hit a full with such a bad hand. This sucks more:
Full Tilt Poker Game #13462754587: $2 + 0.25 Tournament (99453018), Table 10 - 40/80 - Pot Limit Omaha H/L - 4:03:54 ET - 2009/07/18
Seat 1: superiorbath (4,905)
Seat 2: Darkdeck (1,916)
Seat 4: SusieOh (658)
Seat 5: ASD-OCD (4,911)
Seat 6: basatagirl (5,103)
Seat 7: KYKenny (1,279)
Seat 8: RAGS2RICHESXXX (1,587)
Seat 9: daveteezeeme (1,888)
ASD-OCD posts the small blind of 40
basatagirl posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to basatagirl [Tc Ah Ks 2s]
KYKenny folds
RAGS2RICHESXXX folds
daveteezeeme folds
superiorbath folds
Darkdeck calls 80
He should try to steal with the hand he has if he's going to play it, but I wouldn't play it.
SusieOh folds
ASD-OCD has been disconnected
ASD-OCD folds
ASD-OCD has reconnected
basatagirl checks
I have no fold equity for a raise, even though my hand is okay. I prefer not to bloat the pot without any hope of just TingID.
*** FLOP *** [3h As 7c]
Not the best flop because there's a low out there and the ace is really bad for me.
basatagirl checks
Darkdeck bets 200
basatagirl calls 200
I call because I have TPTK on an unconnected board, and he doesn't have to have a low
because these boys will often play high-only hands. I should probably fold, but I hate to give up too easily against these really bad players.
*** TURN *** [3h As 7c] [Kh]
That's a great turn for me, because I now have the best high.
basatagirl checks
Darkdeck bets 400
basatagirl raises to 1,800
I am hoping to make him fold hands that have bad lows and no highs and draws to beat me, like 64xx maybe.
Darkdeck calls 1,236, and is all in
basatagirl shows [Tc Ah Ks 2s]
Darkdeck shows [2c 4s 2h 5c]
Obviously he is not folding a nut low. I am in good shape for high though because he'd need a 4 or a 2 to beat me, and obv. he has one of the 4s and only one 2 is still in the deck.
Uncalled bet of 164 returned to basatagirl
*** RIVER *** [3h As 7c Kh] [4c]
Oh shit.
****
My bustout hand was quite disappointing.
Full Tilt Poker Game #13463062792: $2 + 0.25 Tournament (99453018), Table 10 - 80/160 - Pot Limit Omaha H/L - 4:36:27 ET - 2009/07/18
Seat 1: superiorbath (7,032)
Seat 2: Darkdeck (3,397)
Seat 3: pokerbill72 (24,917)
Seat 4: back2therail (4,035)
Seat 5: ASD-OCD (7,154)
Seat 6: basatagirl (4,165)
Seat 7: KYKenny (1,139), is sitting out
Seat 8: Boxcar85 (2,783)
ASD-OCD posts the small blind of 80
basatagirl posts the big blind of 160
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to basatagirl [Ad 3s Qh Qd]
KYKenny folds
Boxcar85 folds
superiorbath folds
Darkdeck folds
pokerbill72 folds
back2therail has 15 seconds left to act
back2therail raises to 320
I hate minraises in Omaha. You don't have much, if any, steal equity, so all you're doing is bloat the pot.
ASD-OCD calls 240
Will call with nearly anything, he's that bad.
basatagirl calls 160
*** FLOP *** [Jc 6d 2c]
ASD-OCD has 15 seconds left to act
ASD-OCD bets 960
That's a big bet, so he probably has something. However, I'd think he's more likely to have something like 54xx or Acxcxx than a set of jacks, so I'm probably ahead for high and have hopes for low. Folding here would be far too weak in my view, and given the amount I have to call, I should play for stacks.
basatagirl raises to 3,840
So I do.
back2therail folds
ASD-OCD calls 2,880
I would have rather kept the pot smaller with his hand, and looked to make money when I actually had a hand, but I'm not him.
I now very much don't want to see a club on the turn, particularly not a high one.
*** TURN *** [Jc 6d 2c] [Qc]
FUCK. I mean, on the one hand I have a set, but on the other, the flush made, and he's likely to have it.
KYKenny has been disconnected
ASD-OCD bets 160
Yeah, cunt, you should have done that on the flop, given that I only had 5 left behind.
basatagirl calls 5, and is all in
ASD-OCD shows [2h 3d Ac 7c]
He has the worst possible hand for me. He should have 3bet preflop imo, because it's always better to take it down preflop than to try to let me have a shot at outflopping him on a high-only board getting 5/1.
Sadly, he not only has the flush, but he halves my low too, so I badly need the board to pair.
basatagirl shows [Ad 3s Qh Qd]
Uncalled bet of 155 returned to ASD-OCD
*** RIVER *** [Jc 6d 2c Qc] [9c]
Which of course it doesn't.
Oh well. Just because this fish played nearly every fucking hand and hit perfect against me are not reasons to cry. But his being Australian is. All -- and I mean all -- Australian players are entirely retarded, and should never win a cent at poker imo.
Full Tilt Poker Game #13462676090: $2 + 0.25 Tournament (99453018), Table 10 - 30/60 - Pot Limit Omaha H/L - 3:54:16 ET - 2009/07/18
Seat 1: superiorbath (5,325)
Seat 2: Darkdeck (1,316)
Seat 3: SexulHrsmntPnda (4,494)
Seat 4: SusieOh (938)
Seat 5: ASD-OCD (4,811)
Seat 6: basatagirl (4,863)
Seat 7: KYKenny (1,339)
Seat 8: RAGS2RICHESXXX (1,587)
Seat 9: daveteezeeme (2,068)
superiorbath posts the small blind of 30
Darkdeck posts the big blind of 60
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to basatagirl [3c 4d Ks Ac]
SexulHrsmntPnda folds
SusieOh folds
ASD-OCD calls 60
basatagirl calls 60
It's reasonable to limp this in this game, where there is very little aggression.
KYKenny calls 60
RAGS2RICHESXXX folds
daveteezeeme calls 60
superiorbath calls 30
Darkdeck checks
*** FLOP *** [8c 8d 2c]
superiorbath checks
Darkdeck bets 120
Doesn't have to have much for that.
ASD-OCD calls 120
This is terrible with his actual hand.
basatagirl calls 120
I call with nut low draw and nut flush draw. If no one has or hits a boat, I could scoop.
KYKenny folds
daveteezeeme calls 120
superiorbath folds
*** TURN *** [8c 8d 2c] [6c]
So I have my flush and the nut low. There aren't too many hands I'm going to hate being against here.
Darkdeck checks
ASD-OCD bets 420
basatagirl raises to 2,100
Pot raise. I don't mind if he comes with me now.
daveteezeeme folds
Darkdeck folds
ASD-OCD raises to 4,631, and is all in
basatagirl calls 2,531
Easy call. He can have me beat for high, but can only chop low, and it has to be unlikely he has it.
ASD-OCD shows [3s 8s Jd 2h]
Fucking awful. He should never limp this pre. It's a dog. 32xx is a trouble hand in OH and he has nothing else going on really.
On the flop, he has high sewn up obviously, but slowplaying it is horrible. Why let
me hit my low for free? I am supposing he thinks he will get more from a flush if it hits, but there's a decent wedge in the pot, and if someone hits a low, he gives up half of what's already there. He has nothing to lose by pumping the pot.
*** RIVER *** [8c 8d 2c 6c] [2d]
ASD-OCD shows a full house, Eights full of Twos, for high
basatagirl shows a flush, Ace high, for high and 8,6,3,2,A, for low
ASD-OCD wins the high pot (5,051) with a full house, Eights full of Twos
basatagirl wins the low pot (5,051) with 8,6,3,2,A
So that sucks a bit, not least that he hit a full with such a bad hand. This sucks more:
Full Tilt Poker Game #13462754587: $2 + 0.25 Tournament (99453018), Table 10 - 40/80 - Pot Limit Omaha H/L - 4:03:54 ET - 2009/07/18
Seat 1: superiorbath (4,905)
Seat 2: Darkdeck (1,916)
Seat 4: SusieOh (658)
Seat 5: ASD-OCD (4,911)
Seat 6: basatagirl (5,103)
Seat 7: KYKenny (1,279)
Seat 8: RAGS2RICHESXXX (1,587)
Seat 9: daveteezeeme (1,888)
ASD-OCD posts the small blind of 40
basatagirl posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to basatagirl [Tc Ah Ks 2s]
KYKenny folds
RAGS2RICHESXXX folds
daveteezeeme folds
superiorbath folds
Darkdeck calls 80
He should try to steal with the hand he has if he's going to play it, but I wouldn't play it.
SusieOh folds
ASD-OCD has been disconnected
ASD-OCD folds
ASD-OCD has reconnected
basatagirl checks
I have no fold equity for a raise, even though my hand is okay. I prefer not to bloat the pot without any hope of just TingID.
*** FLOP *** [3h As 7c]
Not the best flop because there's a low out there and the ace is really bad for me.
basatagirl checks
Darkdeck bets 200
basatagirl calls 200
I call because I have TPTK on an unconnected board, and he doesn't have to have a low
because these boys will often play high-only hands. I should probably fold, but I hate to give up too easily against these really bad players.
*** TURN *** [3h As 7c] [Kh]
That's a great turn for me, because I now have the best high.
basatagirl checks
Darkdeck bets 400
basatagirl raises to 1,800
I am hoping to make him fold hands that have bad lows and no highs and draws to beat me, like 64xx maybe.
Darkdeck calls 1,236, and is all in
basatagirl shows [Tc Ah Ks 2s]
Darkdeck shows [2c 4s 2h 5c]
Obviously he is not folding a nut low. I am in good shape for high though because he'd need a 4 or a 2 to beat me, and obv. he has one of the 4s and only one 2 is still in the deck.
Uncalled bet of 164 returned to basatagirl
*** RIVER *** [3h As 7c Kh] [4c]
Oh shit.
****
My bustout hand was quite disappointing.
Full Tilt Poker Game #13463062792: $2 + 0.25 Tournament (99453018), Table 10 - 80/160 - Pot Limit Omaha H/L - 4:36:27 ET - 2009/07/18
Seat 1: superiorbath (7,032)
Seat 2: Darkdeck (3,397)
Seat 3: pokerbill72 (24,917)
Seat 4: back2therail (4,035)
Seat 5: ASD-OCD (7,154)
Seat 6: basatagirl (4,165)
Seat 7: KYKenny (1,139), is sitting out
Seat 8: Boxcar85 (2,783)
ASD-OCD posts the small blind of 80
basatagirl posts the big blind of 160
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to basatagirl [Ad 3s Qh Qd]
KYKenny folds
Boxcar85 folds
superiorbath folds
Darkdeck folds
pokerbill72 folds
back2therail has 15 seconds left to act
back2therail raises to 320
I hate minraises in Omaha. You don't have much, if any, steal equity, so all you're doing is bloat the pot.
ASD-OCD calls 240
Will call with nearly anything, he's that bad.
basatagirl calls 160
*** FLOP *** [Jc 6d 2c]
ASD-OCD has 15 seconds left to act
ASD-OCD bets 960
That's a big bet, so he probably has something. However, I'd think he's more likely to have something like 54xx or Acxcxx than a set of jacks, so I'm probably ahead for high and have hopes for low. Folding here would be far too weak in my view, and given the amount I have to call, I should play for stacks.
basatagirl raises to 3,840
So I do.
back2therail folds
ASD-OCD calls 2,880
I would have rather kept the pot smaller with his hand, and looked to make money when I actually had a hand, but I'm not him.
I now very much don't want to see a club on the turn, particularly not a high one.
*** TURN *** [Jc 6d 2c] [Qc]
FUCK. I mean, on the one hand I have a set, but on the other, the flush made, and he's likely to have it.
KYKenny has been disconnected
ASD-OCD bets 160
Yeah, cunt, you should have done that on the flop, given that I only had 5 left behind.
basatagirl calls 5, and is all in
ASD-OCD shows [2h 3d Ac 7c]
He has the worst possible hand for me. He should have 3bet preflop imo, because it's always better to take it down preflop than to try to let me have a shot at outflopping him on a high-only board getting 5/1.
Sadly, he not only has the flush, but he halves my low too, so I badly need the board to pair.
basatagirl shows [Ad 3s Qh Qd]
Uncalled bet of 155 returned to ASD-OCD
*** RIVER *** [Jc 6d 2c Qc] [9c]
Which of course it doesn't.
Oh well. Just because this fish played nearly every fucking hand and hit perfect against me are not reasons to cry. But his being Australian is. All -- and I mean all -- Australian players are entirely retarded, and should never win a cent at poker imo.
Wednesday, 8 July 2009
WTF hand of the week so far
It's not the decision to limp that boggles the mind and not the decision to call a raise after that. It's how this guy has the ability to find the on button on his computer:
PokerStars Game #30220353332: Tournament #177710269, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2009/07/08 2:18:18 ET
Table '177710269 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: FR Vessant (1560 in chips)
Seat 2: stunt chick (1725 in chips)
Seat 3: LindaLouStar (980 in chips)
Seat 4: Spay Nuter (1390 in chips)
Seat 5: rockxxx (1580 in chips)
Seat 6: barrazor (2120 in chips)
Seat 7: bonez_311 (1785 in chips)
Seat 8: Ultima24 (1080 in chips)
Seat 9: jtran86 (1280 in chips)
LindaLouStar: posts small blind 15
Spay Nuter: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Qc Ac]
rockxxx: folds
barrazor: folds
bonez_311: folds
Ultima24: calls 30
jtran86: folds
FR Vessant: raises 90 to 120
I make a fairly standard raise. I never like picking up AK/AQ, suited or otherwise, in the first couple of levels and I don't much like raising limpers because they never fold unless you hit.
stunt chick: folds
LindaLouStar: folds
Spay Nuter: calls 90
Ultima24: calls 90
*** FLOP *** [Jd 8h 9d]
Spay Nuter: checks
Ultima24: checks
FR Vessant: checks
Not betting that flop because there's just so much for a fish to like there.
*** TURN *** [Jd 8h 9d] [Ks]
Spay Nuter: checks
Ultima24: checks
FR Vessant: checks
Could bet there, but then I'm just hating so many rivers.
*** RIVER *** [Jd 8h 9d Ks] [Kd]
Spay Nuter: checks
Ultima24: checks
FR Vessant: checks
I guess I'll just show my hand down and hope they have...
well, I dunno. there's pretty much nothing I can be beating except crappy aces. So I have to check.
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Spay Nuter: shows [3c Ad] (a pair of Kings)
Crappy ace, sure enough. Why do these clowns call with them? I am quite likely to have a bigger ace and if I don't, and an ace comes, you're unlikely to get paid. So you can only win a small pot or lose a big one.
Ultima24: shows [6h 9s] (two pair, Kings and Nines)
What. The. Fuck. I can't even imagine a rationale for playing that. Maybe he folded the previous hand and was bored. Maybe he feels it will be disguised if he hits. Erm, yes.
Anyway, this is more usual. I suppose the fish was unlucky that he couldn't make any money when he got lucky, but I think against those parts of my range that he could make money from, his line sucks some.
PokerStars Game #30220404105: Tournament #177708932, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2009/07/08 2:21:47 ET
Table '177708932 1' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: over-vert (1200 in chips)
Seat 3: titralac (4715 in chips)
Seat 4: the bl12ade (1230 in chips)
Seat 5: huggyville (1020 in chips)
Seat 6: pc318318 (1310 in chips)
Seat 8: rafmd (2460 in chips)
Seat 9: FR Vessant (1565 in chips)
huggyville: posts small blind 15
pc318318: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Kd Ah]
rafmd: calls 30
I'll tell you now, he has 22. So that's reasonable to limp. You might consider it more prudent to fold because you're likely to be raised and that will make it expensive, but actually this table is quite passive in the few hands we've played, so it's not such a bad gamble.
FR Vessant: raises 90 to 120
over-vert: folds
titralac: folds
the bl12ade: folds
huggyville: folds
pc318318: folds
rafmd: calls 90
But now he should fold. It's too much money to call to try to hit a set and my range is not narrow enough to guarantee stacking me unless you get the right flop.
*** FLOP *** [2d 3s 5s]
Which this one isn't.
rafmd: checks
FR Vessant: checks
I check behind obv. because even though it's unlikely he hit the flop, he's unlikely to fold to a cbet here. He can convince himself to continue with overcards and obv. folding a pair would be out of the question for him.
In his shoes, I'd probably bet. If I have an overpair, I'm going to raise, and he can then often get it in. If I don't, I'm not all that likely to cbet this flop and you are hoping that I hit something that I like on the next two streets.
*** TURN *** [2d 3s 5s] [Tc]
rafmd: checks
The fish's urge to trap overcomes any idea of actually making value with his monster. I suppose once I checked the flop back, it's okay not to force the action, because my most likely hand is AK/AQ and I'm not calling a bet with that.
FR Vessant: checks
*** RIVER *** [2d 3s 5s Tc] [Qd]
rafmd: bets 150
Finally, he takes a stab. It's safe, of course. I'm pretty unlikely to have a pair of Qs and AQ is strongly in my range.
FR Vessant said, "sigh"
FR Vessant said, "I have a bad feeling you actually have a Q"
LOL. I was kind of tempted to call because my hand is often good but meh.
FR Vessant: folds
Uncalled bet (150) returned to rafmd
rafmd collected 285 from pot
rafmd: shows [2s 2h] (three of a kind, Deuces)
How we laughed.
Later, I gave him a lesson in why limpcalling is bad:
PokerStars Game #30220786852: Tournament #177708932, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2009/07/08 2:49:13 ET
Table '177708932 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 3: titralac (3837 in chips)
Seat 5: huggyville (3495 in chips)
Seat 8: rafmd (4493 in chips)
Seat 9: FR Vessant (1675 in chips)
titralac: posts small blind 75
huggyville: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [As Ah]
rafmd: calls 150
rafmd said, "ty"
FR Vessant: raises 300 to 450
I know, it's ridicutarded, but it sucks a ton if you push and he folds, which he just might have.
titralac: folds
huggyville: folds
rafmd: calls 300
*** FLOP *** [5d Td 7s]
rafmd: bets 600
Well, let's hope he doesn't have 77 or some retarded shit like 75s.
FR Vessant: raises 625 to 1225 and is all-in
Drop the boom.
rafmd: calls 625
He has KdTh.
*** TURN *** [5d Td 7s] [2d]
So that turn is a bit stressful.
*** RIVER *** [5d Td 7s 2d] [3c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
rafmd: shows [Kd Th] (a pair of Tens)
FR Vessant: shows [As Ah] (a pair of Aces)
FR Vessant collected 3575 from pot
I know, how come I'm losing money in this company. Beats me too.
PokerStars Game #30220353332: Tournament #177710269, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2009/07/08 2:18:18 ET
Table '177710269 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: FR Vessant (1560 in chips)
Seat 2: stunt chick (1725 in chips)
Seat 3: LindaLouStar (980 in chips)
Seat 4: Spay Nuter (1390 in chips)
Seat 5: rockxxx (1580 in chips)
Seat 6: barrazor (2120 in chips)
Seat 7: bonez_311 (1785 in chips)
Seat 8: Ultima24 (1080 in chips)
Seat 9: jtran86 (1280 in chips)
LindaLouStar: posts small blind 15
Spay Nuter: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Qc Ac]
rockxxx: folds
barrazor: folds
bonez_311: folds
Ultima24: calls 30
jtran86: folds
FR Vessant: raises 90 to 120
I make a fairly standard raise. I never like picking up AK/AQ, suited or otherwise, in the first couple of levels and I don't much like raising limpers because they never fold unless you hit.
stunt chick: folds
LindaLouStar: folds
Spay Nuter: calls 90
Ultima24: calls 90
*** FLOP *** [Jd 8h 9d]
Spay Nuter: checks
Ultima24: checks
FR Vessant: checks
Not betting that flop because there's just so much for a fish to like there.
*** TURN *** [Jd 8h 9d] [Ks]
Spay Nuter: checks
Ultima24: checks
FR Vessant: checks
Could bet there, but then I'm just hating so many rivers.
*** RIVER *** [Jd 8h 9d Ks] [Kd]
Spay Nuter: checks
Ultima24: checks
FR Vessant: checks
I guess I'll just show my hand down and hope they have...
well, I dunno. there's pretty much nothing I can be beating except crappy aces. So I have to check.
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Spay Nuter: shows [3c Ad] (a pair of Kings)
Crappy ace, sure enough. Why do these clowns call with them? I am quite likely to have a bigger ace and if I don't, and an ace comes, you're unlikely to get paid. So you can only win a small pot or lose a big one.
Ultima24: shows [6h 9s] (two pair, Kings and Nines)
What. The. Fuck. I can't even imagine a rationale for playing that. Maybe he folded the previous hand and was bored. Maybe he feels it will be disguised if he hits. Erm, yes.
Anyway, this is more usual. I suppose the fish was unlucky that he couldn't make any money when he got lucky, but I think against those parts of my range that he could make money from, his line sucks some.
PokerStars Game #30220404105: Tournament #177708932, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2009/07/08 2:21:47 ET
Table '177708932 1' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: over-vert (1200 in chips)
Seat 3: titralac (4715 in chips)
Seat 4: the bl12ade (1230 in chips)
Seat 5: huggyville (1020 in chips)
Seat 6: pc318318 (1310 in chips)
Seat 8: rafmd (2460 in chips)
Seat 9: FR Vessant (1565 in chips)
huggyville: posts small blind 15
pc318318: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Kd Ah]
rafmd: calls 30
I'll tell you now, he has 22. So that's reasonable to limp. You might consider it more prudent to fold because you're likely to be raised and that will make it expensive, but actually this table is quite passive in the few hands we've played, so it's not such a bad gamble.
FR Vessant: raises 90 to 120
over-vert: folds
titralac: folds
the bl12ade: folds
huggyville: folds
pc318318: folds
rafmd: calls 90
But now he should fold. It's too much money to call to try to hit a set and my range is not narrow enough to guarantee stacking me unless you get the right flop.
*** FLOP *** [2d 3s 5s]
Which this one isn't.
rafmd: checks
FR Vessant: checks
I check behind obv. because even though it's unlikely he hit the flop, he's unlikely to fold to a cbet here. He can convince himself to continue with overcards and obv. folding a pair would be out of the question for him.
In his shoes, I'd probably bet. If I have an overpair, I'm going to raise, and he can then often get it in. If I don't, I'm not all that likely to cbet this flop and you are hoping that I hit something that I like on the next two streets.
*** TURN *** [2d 3s 5s] [Tc]
rafmd: checks
The fish's urge to trap overcomes any idea of actually making value with his monster. I suppose once I checked the flop back, it's okay not to force the action, because my most likely hand is AK/AQ and I'm not calling a bet with that.
FR Vessant: checks
*** RIVER *** [2d 3s 5s Tc] [Qd]
rafmd: bets 150
Finally, he takes a stab. It's safe, of course. I'm pretty unlikely to have a pair of Qs and AQ is strongly in my range.
FR Vessant said, "sigh"
FR Vessant said, "I have a bad feeling you actually have a Q"
LOL. I was kind of tempted to call because my hand is often good but meh.
FR Vessant: folds
Uncalled bet (150) returned to rafmd
rafmd collected 285 from pot
rafmd: shows [2s 2h] (three of a kind, Deuces)
How we laughed.
Later, I gave him a lesson in why limpcalling is bad:
PokerStars Game #30220786852: Tournament #177708932, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2009/07/08 2:49:13 ET
Table '177708932 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 3: titralac (3837 in chips)
Seat 5: huggyville (3495 in chips)
Seat 8: rafmd (4493 in chips)
Seat 9: FR Vessant (1675 in chips)
titralac: posts small blind 75
huggyville: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [As Ah]
rafmd: calls 150
rafmd said, "ty"
FR Vessant: raises 300 to 450
I know, it's ridicutarded, but it sucks a ton if you push and he folds, which he just might have.
titralac: folds
huggyville: folds
rafmd: calls 300
*** FLOP *** [5d Td 7s]
rafmd: bets 600
Well, let's hope he doesn't have 77 or some retarded shit like 75s.
FR Vessant: raises 625 to 1225 and is all-in
Drop the boom.
rafmd: calls 625
He has KdTh.
*** TURN *** [5d Td 7s] [2d]
So that turn is a bit stressful.
*** RIVER *** [5d Td 7s 2d] [3c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
rafmd: shows [Kd Th] (a pair of Tens)
FR Vessant: shows [As Ah] (a pair of Aces)
FR Vessant collected 3575 from pot
I know, how come I'm losing money in this company. Beats me too.
Bet or check?
I have no one to talk poker with so I'm stuck with posting hands here. Maybe someone will happen along and comment.
PokerStars Game #30218574186: Tournament #177697288, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2009/07/08 0:35:44 ET
Table '177697288 1' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 2: jivehoney2 (875 in chips)
Seat 3: catsonny (1630 in chips)
Seat 4: Gugrand (1835 in chips)
Seat 5: FR Vessant (1660 in chips)
Seat 6: svargas (1120 in chips)
Seat 7: luckyluke711 (1465 in chips)
Seat 8: Kevgj454 (2400 in chips)
Seat 9: Rollar (2515 in chips)
FR Vessant: posts small blind 15
svargas: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Kh Ad]
luckyluke711: folds
Kevgj454: folds
Rollar: folds
jivehoney2: folds
catsonny: folds
Gugrand: raises 60 to 90
This guy has been pretty tight, but he has the button, so I'm not necessarily putting him on a really tight range.
FR Vessant: raises 120 to 210
So I threebet. I actually don't normally threebet out of position. I'd typically flatcall. However, it seems to me that I can define my hand pretty well here by threebetting. If he's very strong, he is likely to shove over, and if he isn't, he will likely fold, and I won't have to play postflop guessing games with it.
svargas: calls 180
So that's not goodThis guy has been semiloose, but not extremely so. I'm not sure what range to put him on because these guys so often surprise you. I guess he can have a lot of pairs and some broadways in his range.
I mean, I've threebet so he shouldn't be superwide.
Gugrand: folds
*** FLOP *** [7h 8d 3s]
Here's the difficult thing. This flop sucks for me. It's not all that likely to have hit him but he may have begun with a better hand.
I can bet, and if he calls or raises, I think I'm done with it. It's a fairly dry flop, so I can't imagine he's trying to push me off a hand if he shoves. I think he should fold overcards, but I can't be sure. They don't often bluffraise, but you have to give him a small chance of it.
If he has a pair, he's never folding on this flop.
I can check, but I think that turns my hand face up and I have to fold when he bets. It won't even be "if". They never check behind. I mean, checking with AA would make sense because these clowns put you on AK every time and try to push you off it.
So is betting profitable?
FR Vessant: bets 270
Well, I try it.
svargas: raises 640 to 910 and is all-in
But I dunno. I think I should have checkfolded. Now I'm stuck in a shitty position and I hate that I bet.
0000
This is why my month is shitty though:
PokerStars Game #30218901413: Tournament #177697279, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2009/07/08 0:52:18 ET
Table '177697279 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 2: marsmac (2218 in chips)
Seat 3: Backwoodsman (1735 in chips)
Seat 4: Mixien (1622 in chips)
Seat 5: JZarse (1455 in chips)
Seat 6: FatStack911 (4175 in chips)
Seat 7: JC Cub (1020 in chips)
Seat 8: FR Vessant (1275 in chips)
FR Vessant: posts small blind 50
marsmac: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [9c Ah]
Backwoodsman: folds
Mixien has timed out
Mixien: folds
Mixien is sitting out
JZarse: folds
Mixien has returned
FatStack911: calls 100
Playing 37/11.
JC Cub: calls 100
Playing something like 40/10.
FR Vessant: raises 1175 to 1275 and is all-in
So I should have tons of fold equity here. And even if one calls, I should be ahead, because he ought to be raising better aces and most pairs.
marsmac: folds
FatStack911: raises 2900 to 4175 and is all-in
OMG.
JC Cub: folds
Uncalled bet (2900) returned to FatStack911
He has AQs. If you want to know how you can even conceivably lose money to these droolers, this is how. Who traps with AQs for fuck's sake? It would actually make less money in the long run than taking the blinds.
Again, these fish think that this sort of thing is super clever when they catch you with A9. They consider it a huge injustice when you have 53 in the BB and catch two pair or you suck out and hit your 9. But what they don't realise is that an aggressive player like me makes this shove all the time, and I profit from it. I factor in the dumb traps when I consider doing it.
Not that their traps always work:
PokerStars Game #30219060445: Tournament #177697288, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2009/07/08 1:00:41 ET
Table '177697288 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 3: catsonny (1580 in chips)
Seat 5: FR Vessant (3785 in chips)
Seat 8: Kevgj454 (4865 in chips)
Seat 9: Rollar (3270 in chips)
Kevgj454: posts small blind 75
Rollar: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Ah Qh]
catsonny: raises 150 to 300
Why minraise in his spot? I guess he could have something but I'm not folding my hand in this spot. The problem is that these guys also steal with minraises and like to minraise small pairs. This guy has minraised more than once, although I haven't seen him do it utg.
I think my hand is too strong to fold against a shorty even if I am suspicious, so I don't fold.
FR Vessant: raises 600 to 900
I raise to discourage the others from entering the pot.
Kevgj454: folds
Rollar: folds
catsonny: raises 600 to 1500
He actually leaves himself with 80 behind, which is cute. I'm not folding obviously.
FR Vessant: calls 600
*** FLOP *** [9s Qc 3d]
Well, if he has AA, this is going to hurt.
catsonny: bets 80 and is all-in
FR Vessant: calls 80
He has JJ.
Couple hands later, just to show that I am not married to AQ or anything:
PokerStars Game #30219076960: Tournament #177697288, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2009/07/08 1:01:34 ET
Table '177697288 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 5: FR Vessant (5440 in chips)
Seat 8: Kevgj454 (5015 in chips)
Seat 9: Rollar (3045 in chips)
FR Vessant: posts small blind 75
Kevgj454: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Qs Ah]
Rollar: folds
FR Vessant: raises 300 to 450
Standard raise.
Kevgj454: raises 4565 to 5015 and is all-in
Thing is, this guy has been loose but not particularly aggressive. I think he has to have a strong hand, given my read so
FR Vessant: folds
Uncalled bet (4565) returned to Kevgj454
Kevgj454 collected 900 from pot
Kevgj454: shows [Jc Js] (a pair of Jacks)
Well, I suppose I had some overlay but I'm pretty content to have folded there.
However later on:
PokerStars Game #30219183005: Tournament #177697288, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2009/07/08 1:07:32 ET
Table '177697288 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 5: FR Vessant (5665 in chips)
Seat 8: Kevgj454 (5690 in chips)
Seat 9: Rollar (2145 in chips)
FR Vessant: posts small blind 75
Kevgj454: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [9h 9c]
Rollar: folds
FR Vessant: raises 300 to 450
Kevgj454: calls 300
Can have a very wide range.
*** FLOP *** [6c 2h Js]
FR Vessant: bets 600
I am obviously going to cbet even with the overcard.
Kevgj454: raises 4640 to 5240 and is all-in
But now I have to fold.
Having folded earlier, is he encouraged and is now bluffing? I dunno. I do think I can have the best hand but on a flop this dry, it's hard to put him on the bluff because he'd have to have absolutely nothing. So
FR Vessant: folds
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Not that it did me too much harm:
PokerStars Game #30219235910: Tournament #177697288, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2009/07/08 1:10:33 ET
Table '177697288 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 5: FR Vessant (3790 in chips)
Seat 8: Kevgj454 (8315 in chips)
Seat 9: Rollar (1395 in chips)
Rollar: posts small blind 100
FR Vessant: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Kh Ad]
Kevgj454: raises 400 to 600
Rollar: raises 795 to 1395 and is all-in
Woah! Hold on!
FR Vessant: raises 2395 to 3790 and is all-in
I'm getting it in because even though Rollar probably has a strong range, I'm going to have to be beaten by both to come third even if Kevgj454 calls (because I outchip Rollar). I'd obviously have a really nice stack if either I win outright or I beat just Kev.
Kevgj454: calls 3190
He has KK. The other guy has a pair of 6s.
Yuk. Still, at least I'm a big favourite to come second. And there's always spiking the ace, right?
*** FLOP *** [5c 9d Qc]
*** TURN *** [5c 9d Qc] [Jh]
Hold on! Now I have a ten or an ace to win. Come on!
*** RIVER *** [5c 9d Qc Jh] [Th]
woot.
Kev decided to do more trapping later, and really, this is why you don't do this sort of thing:
PokerStars Game #30219251392: Tournament #177697288, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2009/07/08 1:11:22 ET
Table '177697288 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 5: FR Vessant (9575 in chips)
Seat 8: Kevgj454 (3925 in chips)
Kevgj454: posts small blind 100
FR Vessant: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [4d 2d]
Kevgj454: calls 100
FR Vessant: checks
*** FLOP *** [4s 3s 7h]
FR Vessant: checks
I don't bet, even with the flush draw there, because a/ I'm never putting a HU opponent on an FD, and b/ he can and will call with a 5, 6 or overcards.
Kevgj454: checks
*** TURN *** [4s 3s 7h] [4h]
Nice. I'm pretty sure I have the best hand now.
FR Vessant: bets 400
Kevgj454: raises 800 to 1200
Not too scared by that. If he has a better 4 or the flopped straight, that's poker. More likely he thinks I'm bluffing and he can rebluff me.
FR Vessant: raises 8175 to 9375 and is all-in
So let's get it on, bro.
Kevgj454: calls 2525 and is all-in
He has JJ, which he played about as badly as is possible. The idea of poker, put simply, is to make bets when you're a favourite at the odds, and pass them when you're not. Doing it the other way round is not going to make you money. But from time to time, it just might make me some.
PokerStars Game #30218574186: Tournament #177697288, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2009/07/08 0:35:44 ET
Table '177697288 1' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 2: jivehoney2 (875 in chips)
Seat 3: catsonny (1630 in chips)
Seat 4: Gugrand (1835 in chips)
Seat 5: FR Vessant (1660 in chips)
Seat 6: svargas (1120 in chips)
Seat 7: luckyluke711 (1465 in chips)
Seat 8: Kevgj454 (2400 in chips)
Seat 9: Rollar (2515 in chips)
FR Vessant: posts small blind 15
svargas: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Kh Ad]
luckyluke711: folds
Kevgj454: folds
Rollar: folds
jivehoney2: folds
catsonny: folds
Gugrand: raises 60 to 90
This guy has been pretty tight, but he has the button, so I'm not necessarily putting him on a really tight range.
FR Vessant: raises 120 to 210
So I threebet. I actually don't normally threebet out of position. I'd typically flatcall. However, it seems to me that I can define my hand pretty well here by threebetting. If he's very strong, he is likely to shove over, and if he isn't, he will likely fold, and I won't have to play postflop guessing games with it.
svargas: calls 180
So that's not goodThis guy has been semiloose, but not extremely so. I'm not sure what range to put him on because these guys so often surprise you. I guess he can have a lot of pairs and some broadways in his range.
I mean, I've threebet so he shouldn't be superwide.
Gugrand: folds
*** FLOP *** [7h 8d 3s]
Here's the difficult thing. This flop sucks for me. It's not all that likely to have hit him but he may have begun with a better hand.
I can bet, and if he calls or raises, I think I'm done with it. It's a fairly dry flop, so I can't imagine he's trying to push me off a hand if he shoves. I think he should fold overcards, but I can't be sure. They don't often bluffraise, but you have to give him a small chance of it.
If he has a pair, he's never folding on this flop.
I can check, but I think that turns my hand face up and I have to fold when he bets. It won't even be "if". They never check behind. I mean, checking with AA would make sense because these clowns put you on AK every time and try to push you off it.
So is betting profitable?
FR Vessant: bets 270
Well, I try it.
svargas: raises 640 to 910 and is all-in
But I dunno. I think I should have checkfolded. Now I'm stuck in a shitty position and I hate that I bet.
0000
This is why my month is shitty though:
PokerStars Game #30218901413: Tournament #177697279, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2009/07/08 0:52:18 ET
Table '177697279 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 2: marsmac (2218 in chips)
Seat 3: Backwoodsman (1735 in chips)
Seat 4: Mixien (1622 in chips)
Seat 5: JZarse (1455 in chips)
Seat 6: FatStack911 (4175 in chips)
Seat 7: JC Cub (1020 in chips)
Seat 8: FR Vessant (1275 in chips)
FR Vessant: posts small blind 50
marsmac: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [9c Ah]
Backwoodsman: folds
Mixien has timed out
Mixien: folds
Mixien is sitting out
JZarse: folds
Mixien has returned
FatStack911: calls 100
Playing 37/11.
JC Cub: calls 100
Playing something like 40/10.
FR Vessant: raises 1175 to 1275 and is all-in
So I should have tons of fold equity here. And even if one calls, I should be ahead, because he ought to be raising better aces and most pairs.
marsmac: folds
FatStack911: raises 2900 to 4175 and is all-in
OMG.
JC Cub: folds
Uncalled bet (2900) returned to FatStack911
He has AQs. If you want to know how you can even conceivably lose money to these droolers, this is how. Who traps with AQs for fuck's sake? It would actually make less money in the long run than taking the blinds.
Again, these fish think that this sort of thing is super clever when they catch you with A9. They consider it a huge injustice when you have 53 in the BB and catch two pair or you suck out and hit your 9. But what they don't realise is that an aggressive player like me makes this shove all the time, and I profit from it. I factor in the dumb traps when I consider doing it.
Not that their traps always work:
PokerStars Game #30219060445: Tournament #177697288, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2009/07/08 1:00:41 ET
Table '177697288 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 3: catsonny (1580 in chips)
Seat 5: FR Vessant (3785 in chips)
Seat 8: Kevgj454 (4865 in chips)
Seat 9: Rollar (3270 in chips)
Kevgj454: posts small blind 75
Rollar: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Ah Qh]
catsonny: raises 150 to 300
Why minraise in his spot? I guess he could have something but I'm not folding my hand in this spot. The problem is that these guys also steal with minraises and like to minraise small pairs. This guy has minraised more than once, although I haven't seen him do it utg.
I think my hand is too strong to fold against a shorty even if I am suspicious, so I don't fold.
FR Vessant: raises 600 to 900
I raise to discourage the others from entering the pot.
Kevgj454: folds
Rollar: folds
catsonny: raises 600 to 1500
He actually leaves himself with 80 behind, which is cute. I'm not folding obviously.
FR Vessant: calls 600
*** FLOP *** [9s Qc 3d]
Well, if he has AA, this is going to hurt.
catsonny: bets 80 and is all-in
FR Vessant: calls 80
He has JJ.
Couple hands later, just to show that I am not married to AQ or anything:
PokerStars Game #30219076960: Tournament #177697288, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2009/07/08 1:01:34 ET
Table '177697288 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 5: FR Vessant (5440 in chips)
Seat 8: Kevgj454 (5015 in chips)
Seat 9: Rollar (3045 in chips)
FR Vessant: posts small blind 75
Kevgj454: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Qs Ah]
Rollar: folds
FR Vessant: raises 300 to 450
Standard raise.
Kevgj454: raises 4565 to 5015 and is all-in
Thing is, this guy has been loose but not particularly aggressive. I think he has to have a strong hand, given my read so
FR Vessant: folds
Uncalled bet (4565) returned to Kevgj454
Kevgj454 collected 900 from pot
Kevgj454: shows [Jc Js] (a pair of Jacks)
Well, I suppose I had some overlay but I'm pretty content to have folded there.
However later on:
PokerStars Game #30219183005: Tournament #177697288, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2009/07/08 1:07:32 ET
Table '177697288 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 5: FR Vessant (5665 in chips)
Seat 8: Kevgj454 (5690 in chips)
Seat 9: Rollar (2145 in chips)
FR Vessant: posts small blind 75
Kevgj454: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [9h 9c]
Rollar: folds
FR Vessant: raises 300 to 450
Kevgj454: calls 300
Can have a very wide range.
*** FLOP *** [6c 2h Js]
FR Vessant: bets 600
I am obviously going to cbet even with the overcard.
Kevgj454: raises 4640 to 5240 and is all-in
But now I have to fold.
Having folded earlier, is he encouraged and is now bluffing? I dunno. I do think I can have the best hand but on a flop this dry, it's hard to put him on the bluff because he'd have to have absolutely nothing. So
FR Vessant: folds
0000
Not that it did me too much harm:
PokerStars Game #30219235910: Tournament #177697288, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2009/07/08 1:10:33 ET
Table '177697288 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 5: FR Vessant (3790 in chips)
Seat 8: Kevgj454 (8315 in chips)
Seat 9: Rollar (1395 in chips)
Rollar: posts small blind 100
FR Vessant: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Kh Ad]
Kevgj454: raises 400 to 600
Rollar: raises 795 to 1395 and is all-in
Woah! Hold on!
FR Vessant: raises 2395 to 3790 and is all-in
I'm getting it in because even though Rollar probably has a strong range, I'm going to have to be beaten by both to come third even if Kevgj454 calls (because I outchip Rollar). I'd obviously have a really nice stack if either I win outright or I beat just Kev.
Kevgj454: calls 3190
He has KK. The other guy has a pair of 6s.
Yuk. Still, at least I'm a big favourite to come second. And there's always spiking the ace, right?
*** FLOP *** [5c 9d Qc]
*** TURN *** [5c 9d Qc] [Jh]
Hold on! Now I have a ten or an ace to win. Come on!
*** RIVER *** [5c 9d Qc Jh] [Th]
woot.
Kev decided to do more trapping later, and really, this is why you don't do this sort of thing:
PokerStars Game #30219251392: Tournament #177697288, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2009/07/08 1:11:22 ET
Table '177697288 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 5: FR Vessant (9575 in chips)
Seat 8: Kevgj454 (3925 in chips)
Kevgj454: posts small blind 100
FR Vessant: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [4d 2d]
Kevgj454: calls 100
FR Vessant: checks
*** FLOP *** [4s 3s 7h]
FR Vessant: checks
I don't bet, even with the flush draw there, because a/ I'm never putting a HU opponent on an FD, and b/ he can and will call with a 5, 6 or overcards.
Kevgj454: checks
*** TURN *** [4s 3s 7h] [4h]
Nice. I'm pretty sure I have the best hand now.
FR Vessant: bets 400
Kevgj454: raises 800 to 1200
Not too scared by that. If he has a better 4 or the flopped straight, that's poker. More likely he thinks I'm bluffing and he can rebluff me.
FR Vessant: raises 8175 to 9375 and is all-in
So let's get it on, bro.
Kevgj454: calls 2525 and is all-in
He has JJ, which he played about as badly as is possible. The idea of poker, put simply, is to make bets when you're a favourite at the odds, and pass them when you're not. Doing it the other way round is not going to make you money. But from time to time, it just might make me some.
Zero again
As always, when I move up, I run terribly. This is doubly painful because first you start thinking that you simply weren't as good as you thought you were, and second you lose twice as much money. Once you start to run bad, you start to play bad too.
In the first of today's 22s, I panicked on a bad bubble and made a big -EV call:
PokerStars Game #30214005607: Tournament #177652941, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2009/07/07 21:32:03 ET
Table '177652941 1' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 5: bryan lieb (1778 in chips)
This idiot has basically funnelled tons of chips to jonny2jabs, who is a good player, shoving every SB and button, so I lose 600 chips an orbit, but is folding his BB to shoves from tallyyayo, so I am in a terrible position stackwise.
Seat 6: jonny2jabs (7037 in chips)
Seat 7: FR Vessant (2444 in chips)
Seat 8: tallyyayo (2241 in chips)
bryan lieb: posts the ante 25
jonny2jabs: posts the ante 25
FR Vessant: posts the ante 25
tallyyayo: posts the ante 25
FR Vessant: posts small blind 200
tallyyayo: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [6d 6h]
bryan lieb: folds
jonny2jabs: raises 6612 to 7012 and is all-in
I should fold, of course, but I figure to be in a very weak position, trying to fold into third, if I do, and a decent one, able to play a bigger stack and a good shot at second at least, if I don't.
FR Vessant: calls 2219 and is all-in
So I don't, and this time the ATC shover has 77. GG me.
So the villain in this hand has been erratic and bad:
PokerStars Game #30212844089: Tournament #177653493, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2009/07/07 20:51:41 ET
Table '177653493 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: jonny2jabs (980 in chips)
Seat 2: dumbmum (2840 in chips)
Seat 3: TJ PackMan (733 in chips)
Seat 4: Ducky G 6000 (1835 in chips)
Seat 5: TomC69 (3075 in chips)
Seat 6: pieroni85 (1375 in chips)
Seat 8: FR Vessant (1697 in chips)
Seat 9: orbitahole (965 in chips)
TJ PackMan: posts small blind 50
Ducky G 6000: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Ac Jh]
TomC69: folds
pieroni85: folds
FR Vessant: raises 150 to 250
orbitahole: calls 250
It's really hard to put him on the hand he has, because this call is soooo bad.
jonny2jabs: folds
dumbmum: folds
TJ PackMan: folds
Ducky G 6000: folds
*** FLOP *** [3s Th 4c]
FR Vessant: checks
That's a decent flop but I don't think I can make him fold.
orbitahole: checks
*** TURN *** [3s Th 4c] [2h]
FR Vessant: checks
orbitahole: bets 300
I'm sure he's just taking a stab. Maybe he has a flush draw. In any case, I don't think I can fold here. Effectively, it's the same as getting it in pre, which I would have done.
FR Vessant: raises 1147 to 1447 and is all-in
orbitahole: calls 415 and is all-in
He has TT.
So a few hands later, I shove 92 on the button, expecting a lot of fold equity, and the same fish snapcalls with KQ.
Next up, I lose yet another big pot with QQ:
PokerStars Game #30214906375: Tournament #177669905, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2009/07/07 22:04:10 ET
Table '177669905 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 2: tonyandgolf (3970 in chips)
Seat 3: smallbass79 (1458 in chips)
Seat 4: Uncut Haus (1095 in chips)
Seat 6: Hymie_Weiss (1664 in chips)
Seat 7: FR Vessant (1625 in chips)
Seat 8: evilgenius76 (2580 in chips)
Seat 9: pokherfinger (1108 in chips)
tonyandgolf: posts small blind 25
smallbass79: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Qd Qh]
Uncut Haus: folds
Hymie_Weiss: folds
FR Vessant: raises 100 to 150
evilgenius76: folds
pokherfinger: folds
tonyandgolf: calls 125
Has been fairly tight but doesn't look good.
smallbass79: folds
*** FLOP *** [5c 7s Th]
tonyandgolf: checks
FR Vessant: bets 200
Nice flop for my hand so obv. I bet.
tonyandgolf: raises 500 to 700
Well, he might have a set, but you don't make money by folding overpairs against fish.
FR Vessant: raises 775 to 1475 and is all-in
tonyandgolf: calls 775
You also don't make it by running QQ into AA. GG me.
I defy anyone to fold this one:
PokerStars Game #30215110571: Tournament #177670505, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2009/07/07 22:11:31 ET
Table '177670505 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: FR Vessant (2868 in chips)
Seat 2: AKATheShark (2475 in chips)
Seat 5: DaPorKer42 (3205 in chips)
Seat 6: Dr. Baker75 (1979 in chips)
Seat 8: Uncut Haus (898 in chips)
Seat 9: Jacxxs (2075 in chips)
DaPorKer42: posts small blind 50
Dr. Baker75: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Qc Ad]
Uncut Haus: folds
Jacxxs: calls 100
Pretty bad to limp here. He's played sort of semiloose, so I definitely figure to be ahead.
FR Vessant: raises 300 to 400
AKATheShark: folds
DaPorKer42: calls 350
Has played 16/3 or something like that. His call is beyond bad with the hand he actually had. Weirdly, if he'd played it anything like properly, I would have been able to fold pre and get away from it.
Dr. Baker75: folds
Jacxxs: calls 300
*** FLOP *** [8h 6c Ah]
DaPorKer42: bets 2805 and is all-in
WTF.
I know when you see his hand you think I should fold. Isn't it obvious he has me beat? Well no, it's not. It's really hard to see how any hand that beats me plays like this.
I just happened to have the only hand he beat that would call. That's how it is for me at the moment. I'm losing a ton of money to players who are so bad they don't know that their bets are super bad.
Jacxxs: folds
FR Vessant: calls 2468 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (337) returned to DaPorKer42
*** TURN *** [8h 6c Ah] [9h]
*** RIVER *** [8h 6c Ah 9h] [9s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DaPorKer42: shows [Kc As] (two pair, Aces and Nines)
Just fucking awful. He should have AJ or a flush draw, maybe with a 6. When you're running good, that's all they have (although note that the flush draw got there anyway).
It doesn't do my fragile confidence any good. This happens literally every time I move up. I know that running bad is part of poker, but when it happens coincidentally with moving up, you start to fear that you cannot win at a higher level than the goddamn 11s. I had been getting excited about my prospects. Now they are at zero again.
In the first of today's 22s, I panicked on a bad bubble and made a big -EV call:
PokerStars Game #30214005607: Tournament #177652941, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2009/07/07 21:32:03 ET
Table '177652941 1' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 5: bryan lieb (1778 in chips)
This idiot has basically funnelled tons of chips to jonny2jabs, who is a good player, shoving every SB and button, so I lose 600 chips an orbit, but is folding his BB to shoves from tallyyayo, so I am in a terrible position stackwise.
Seat 6: jonny2jabs (7037 in chips)
Seat 7: FR Vessant (2444 in chips)
Seat 8: tallyyayo (2241 in chips)
bryan lieb: posts the ante 25
jonny2jabs: posts the ante 25
FR Vessant: posts the ante 25
tallyyayo: posts the ante 25
FR Vessant: posts small blind 200
tallyyayo: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [6d 6h]
bryan lieb: folds
jonny2jabs: raises 6612 to 7012 and is all-in
I should fold, of course, but I figure to be in a very weak position, trying to fold into third, if I do, and a decent one, able to play a bigger stack and a good shot at second at least, if I don't.
FR Vessant: calls 2219 and is all-in
So I don't, and this time the ATC shover has 77. GG me.
So the villain in this hand has been erratic and bad:
PokerStars Game #30212844089: Tournament #177653493, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2009/07/07 20:51:41 ET
Table '177653493 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: jonny2jabs (980 in chips)
Seat 2: dumbmum (2840 in chips)
Seat 3: TJ PackMan (733 in chips)
Seat 4: Ducky G 6000 (1835 in chips)
Seat 5: TomC69 (3075 in chips)
Seat 6: pieroni85 (1375 in chips)
Seat 8: FR Vessant (1697 in chips)
Seat 9: orbitahole (965 in chips)
TJ PackMan: posts small blind 50
Ducky G 6000: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Ac Jh]
TomC69: folds
pieroni85: folds
FR Vessant: raises 150 to 250
orbitahole: calls 250
It's really hard to put him on the hand he has, because this call is soooo bad.
jonny2jabs: folds
dumbmum: folds
TJ PackMan: folds
Ducky G 6000: folds
*** FLOP *** [3s Th 4c]
FR Vessant: checks
That's a decent flop but I don't think I can make him fold.
orbitahole: checks
*** TURN *** [3s Th 4c] [2h]
FR Vessant: checks
orbitahole: bets 300
I'm sure he's just taking a stab. Maybe he has a flush draw. In any case, I don't think I can fold here. Effectively, it's the same as getting it in pre, which I would have done.
FR Vessant: raises 1147 to 1447 and is all-in
orbitahole: calls 415 and is all-in
He has TT.
So a few hands later, I shove 92 on the button, expecting a lot of fold equity, and the same fish snapcalls with KQ.
Next up, I lose yet another big pot with QQ:
PokerStars Game #30214906375: Tournament #177669905, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2009/07/07 22:04:10 ET
Table '177669905 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 2: tonyandgolf (3970 in chips)
Seat 3: smallbass79 (1458 in chips)
Seat 4: Uncut Haus (1095 in chips)
Seat 6: Hymie_Weiss (1664 in chips)
Seat 7: FR Vessant (1625 in chips)
Seat 8: evilgenius76 (2580 in chips)
Seat 9: pokherfinger (1108 in chips)
tonyandgolf: posts small blind 25
smallbass79: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Qd Qh]
Uncut Haus: folds
Hymie_Weiss: folds
FR Vessant: raises 100 to 150
evilgenius76: folds
pokherfinger: folds
tonyandgolf: calls 125
Has been fairly tight but doesn't look good.
smallbass79: folds
*** FLOP *** [5c 7s Th]
tonyandgolf: checks
FR Vessant: bets 200
Nice flop for my hand so obv. I bet.
tonyandgolf: raises 500 to 700
Well, he might have a set, but you don't make money by folding overpairs against fish.
FR Vessant: raises 775 to 1475 and is all-in
tonyandgolf: calls 775
You also don't make it by running QQ into AA. GG me.
I defy anyone to fold this one:
PokerStars Game #30215110571: Tournament #177670505, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2009/07/07 22:11:31 ET
Table '177670505 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: FR Vessant (2868 in chips)
Seat 2: AKATheShark (2475 in chips)
Seat 5: DaPorKer42 (3205 in chips)
Seat 6: Dr. Baker75 (1979 in chips)
Seat 8: Uncut Haus (898 in chips)
Seat 9: Jacxxs (2075 in chips)
DaPorKer42: posts small blind 50
Dr. Baker75: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Qc Ad]
Uncut Haus: folds
Jacxxs: calls 100
Pretty bad to limp here. He's played sort of semiloose, so I definitely figure to be ahead.
FR Vessant: raises 300 to 400
AKATheShark: folds
DaPorKer42: calls 350
Has played 16/3 or something like that. His call is beyond bad with the hand he actually had. Weirdly, if he'd played it anything like properly, I would have been able to fold pre and get away from it.
Dr. Baker75: folds
Jacxxs: calls 300
*** FLOP *** [8h 6c Ah]
DaPorKer42: bets 2805 and is all-in
WTF.
I know when you see his hand you think I should fold. Isn't it obvious he has me beat? Well no, it's not. It's really hard to see how any hand that beats me plays like this.
I just happened to have the only hand he beat that would call. That's how it is for me at the moment. I'm losing a ton of money to players who are so bad they don't know that their bets are super bad.
Jacxxs: folds
FR Vessant: calls 2468 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (337) returned to DaPorKer42
*** TURN *** [8h 6c Ah] [9h]
*** RIVER *** [8h 6c Ah 9h] [9s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DaPorKer42: shows [Kc As] (two pair, Aces and Nines)
Just fucking awful. He should have AJ or a flush draw, maybe with a 6. When you're running good, that's all they have (although note that the flush draw got there anyway).
It doesn't do my fragile confidence any good. This happens literally every time I move up. I know that running bad is part of poker, but when it happens coincidentally with moving up, you start to fear that you cannot win at a higher level than the goddamn 11s. I had been getting excited about my prospects. Now they are at zero again.
Tuesday, 7 July 2009
blwhah
I'm hating poker lately. I had an up and down month last month, but I didn't play much, so meh. I am playing really well, as well as I ever have, but I'm running like shit. Sometimes I play a $2 satty for my MTT fix and when I win the ticket, I play whatever 11 is available. So I played a 27-man and won that. With the 100 bucks I played a 33 and the Nightly 70K. In both I took fierce beats from guys who limpcalled with suited cards preflop. So that was that. Never mind, only risked 2 bucks.
So I moved up to the 22s and that worked well. Or not, as you can imagine. Whenever I move up a level I immediately run like shit, just so that my head gets fucked with. I'm 100% certain I'm playing well, but running bad makes you question that so much. When a tight player completed at t150, should I really have shoved 13BB or whatever with T6? Well, I'm pretty sure I should, because how can I possibly know that a player who is winning more than a buck a game is bad enough to snapcall with KJ? And obviously I can't help all my big pairs getting cracked. I'm not talking just about shoving QQ on a K7x flop and the loose big blind having K7; I mean having AA, getting it in with JT on a AJ8 flop and the turn, river are 9,7. I am not fucking kidding, although I wish I was.
So tonight I said fuck it, because my laptop is broken and I wanted to stay upstairs, and played some bullshit games on FTP. I can proudly report that my record in 3.80 superturbos is now 1/0/0/1 and only a bad beat prevented me from cashing in both. However, I remain cursed in the 6.5/90s, where I have never cashed and probably never will. I shove 55 with a decent stack and a fish calls off 10BB with A3s, which is terrible.
Why is that terrible? He has an ace, right? Well, I am shoving more than 10BB effective, so my range is going to be fairly tight, and I haven't shown much sign of insanity yet, so you can definitely figure that you aren't beating much. Maybe KQs if you think I'm superfrisky, but you're not much ahead of that. My range otherwise is pairs, which nearly all crush you, and big aces, which also crush you. So you are hoping it's a pair and that you can suck out. Which the fish did. So I'm left shoving 9BB with KJs and the SB, who has, I dunno, 20BB, snaps with A6. This is also terrible. In case you truly suck at poker, let me tell you two facts: one, raggy aces are shit hands and two, raggy aces play much worse than you think against any sane shoving range. I just have so much Ax in my range and most of it smashes you. The pairs crush you mostly and even hands like the one I had fare okay (in theory) against your dogshit. But hey, you cover me, right, so gambooooooool? Well no. Your chips are worth much more to me than mine are to you. You just do not win poker tourneys by making loose calls, even if you think you miiiiiiiight sometimes be ahead.
This is one of the problems of tourneys. We don't mind too much the guys who limpcall with suited cards and eventually flush on us. They are chasing such longshots that we gain much more than we lose. But the guy who calls with A6 can hurt us much more. Not only does he rob us of some of the value of shoving weaker hands, but even if we have a stronger hand, he still sucks out much more often than he does when he calls pre with a suited hand. The guy who calls off his stack with A3s is an equity burner -- but although you got your money in good, he is burning your equity too by calling. The A6 guy, well, bleh. If there was any justice, I would have binked a J and lol'd him to oblivion. But there is no justice in poker.
So I moved up to the 22s and that worked well. Or not, as you can imagine. Whenever I move up a level I immediately run like shit, just so that my head gets fucked with. I'm 100% certain I'm playing well, but running bad makes you question that so much. When a tight player completed at t150, should I really have shoved 13BB or whatever with T6? Well, I'm pretty sure I should, because how can I possibly know that a player who is winning more than a buck a game is bad enough to snapcall with KJ? And obviously I can't help all my big pairs getting cracked. I'm not talking just about shoving QQ on a K7x flop and the loose big blind having K7; I mean having AA, getting it in with JT on a AJ8 flop and the turn, river are 9,7. I am not fucking kidding, although I wish I was.
So tonight I said fuck it, because my laptop is broken and I wanted to stay upstairs, and played some bullshit games on FTP. I can proudly report that my record in 3.80 superturbos is now 1/0/0/1 and only a bad beat prevented me from cashing in both. However, I remain cursed in the 6.5/90s, where I have never cashed and probably never will. I shove 55 with a decent stack and a fish calls off 10BB with A3s, which is terrible.
Why is that terrible? He has an ace, right? Well, I am shoving more than 10BB effective, so my range is going to be fairly tight, and I haven't shown much sign of insanity yet, so you can definitely figure that you aren't beating much. Maybe KQs if you think I'm superfrisky, but you're not much ahead of that. My range otherwise is pairs, which nearly all crush you, and big aces, which also crush you. So you are hoping it's a pair and that you can suck out. Which the fish did. So I'm left shoving 9BB with KJs and the SB, who has, I dunno, 20BB, snaps with A6. This is also terrible. In case you truly suck at poker, let me tell you two facts: one, raggy aces are shit hands and two, raggy aces play much worse than you think against any sane shoving range. I just have so much Ax in my range and most of it smashes you. The pairs crush you mostly and even hands like the one I had fare okay (in theory) against your dogshit. But hey, you cover me, right, so gambooooooool? Well no. Your chips are worth much more to me than mine are to you. You just do not win poker tourneys by making loose calls, even if you think you miiiiiiiight sometimes be ahead.
This is one of the problems of tourneys. We don't mind too much the guys who limpcall with suited cards and eventually flush on us. They are chasing such longshots that we gain much more than we lose. But the guy who calls with A6 can hurt us much more. Not only does he rob us of some of the value of shoving weaker hands, but even if we have a stronger hand, he still sucks out much more often than he does when he calls pre with a suited hand. The guy who calls off his stack with A3s is an equity burner -- but although you got your money in good, he is burning your equity too by calling. The A6 guy, well, bleh. If there was any justice, I would have binked a J and lol'd him to oblivion. But there is no justice in poker.
Monday, 6 July 2009
I think I prefer lowstakes
OMG. There's just nothing to say about this. But why can't they miss?
PokerStars Game #30141761978: Tournament #175253468, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2009/07/05 22:45:06 ET
Table '175253468 49' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: howdipartner (3990 in chips)
Seat 2: BaQinBlaQ (2957 in chips)
Seat 3: FR Vessant (3980 in chips)
Seat 4: Mariocalls (2725 in chips)
Seat 5: mikeylions (5835 in chips)
Seat 6: mik9182 (9970 in chips)
Seat 7: nutsindaface (2130 in chips)
Seat 8: NdAAMiracle (3345 in chips)
Seat 9: NYSquad (4840 in chips)
FR Vessant: posts small blind 75
Mariocalls: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Ac Ah]
mikeylions: folds
mik9182: folds
nutsindaface: folds
NdAAMiracle: raises 150 to 300
NYSquad: folds
howdipartner: folds
BaQinBlaQ: folds
FR Vessant: raises 450 to 750
Mariocalls: folds
NdAAMiracle: calls 450
*** FLOP *** [8c Td 6d]
FR Vessant: bets 1050
NdAAMiracle: calls 1050
*** TURN *** [8c Td 6d] [9h]
FR Vessant: bets 2180 and is all-in
NdAAMiracle: calls 1545 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (635) returned to FR Vessant
*** RIVER *** [8c Td 6d 9h] [9d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
FR Vessant: shows [Ac Ah] (two pair, Aces and Nines)
NdAAMiracle: shows [Jd Kd] (a flush, King high)
NdAAMiracle collected 6840 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 6840 | Rake 0
Board [8c Td 6d 9h 9d]
Seat 1: howdipartner folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: BaQinBlaQ (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: FR Vessant (small blind) showed [Ac Ah] and lost with two pair, Aces and Nines
Seat 4: Mariocalls (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: mikeylions folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: mik9182 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: nutsindaface folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: NdAAMiracle showed [Jd Kd] and won (6840) with a flush, King high
Seat 9: NYSquad folded before Flop (didn't bet)
PokerStars Game #30141761978: Tournament #175253468, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2009/07/05 22:45:06 ET
Table '175253468 49' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: howdipartner (3990 in chips)
Seat 2: BaQinBlaQ (2957 in chips)
Seat 3: FR Vessant (3980 in chips)
Seat 4: Mariocalls (2725 in chips)
Seat 5: mikeylions (5835 in chips)
Seat 6: mik9182 (9970 in chips)
Seat 7: nutsindaface (2130 in chips)
Seat 8: NdAAMiracle (3345 in chips)
Seat 9: NYSquad (4840 in chips)
FR Vessant: posts small blind 75
Mariocalls: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Ac Ah]
mikeylions: folds
mik9182: folds
nutsindaface: folds
NdAAMiracle: raises 150 to 300
NYSquad: folds
howdipartner: folds
BaQinBlaQ: folds
FR Vessant: raises 450 to 750
Mariocalls: folds
NdAAMiracle: calls 450
*** FLOP *** [8c Td 6d]
FR Vessant: bets 1050
NdAAMiracle: calls 1050
*** TURN *** [8c Td 6d] [9h]
FR Vessant: bets 2180 and is all-in
NdAAMiracle: calls 1545 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (635) returned to FR Vessant
*** RIVER *** [8c Td 6d 9h] [9d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
FR Vessant: shows [Ac Ah] (two pair, Aces and Nines)
NdAAMiracle: shows [Jd Kd] (a flush, King high)
NdAAMiracle collected 6840 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 6840 | Rake 0
Board [8c Td 6d 9h 9d]
Seat 1: howdipartner folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: BaQinBlaQ (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: FR Vessant (small blind) showed [Ac Ah] and lost with two pair, Aces and Nines
Seat 4: Mariocalls (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: mikeylions folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: mik9182 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: nutsindaface folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: NdAAMiracle showed [Jd Kd] and won (6840) with a flush, King high
Seat 9: NYSquad folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Sunday, 5 July 2009
Another day, another wtf
Don't let anyone tell you that players actually get better as you go up buyins:
PokerStars Game #30113095585: Tournament #175252758, $30+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2009/07/05 6:27:03 ET
Table '175252758 44' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Snooze7am (6775 in chips)
Seat 2: Muso01 (6350 in chips)
Seat 3: jesse6520 (2211 in chips)
Seat 4: Metzy 100 (11151 in chips)
Seat 5: aironevolant (3290 in chips)
Seat 6: HyperR_NL (9758 in chips)
Seat 7: FR Vessant (10930 in chips)
Seat 8: Brick7047 (1180 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 9: kaktus1965 (6550 in chips)
jesse6520: posts small blind 100
Metzy 100: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Ac Qh]
aironevolant: calls 200
Horrible fish.
HyperR_NL: folds
FR Vessant: raises 600 to 800
So I make an isoraise.
Brick7047: folds
kaktus1965: folds
Brick7047 is disconnected
Snooze7am: folds
Muso01: folds
jesse6520: folds
Metzy 100: calls 600
Another unbelievable fish.
aironevolant: raises 2490 to 3290 and is all-in
I just don't believe he's limpreraising a big hand. I'm thinking it's probably a small pair, and I have the overlay to take it on.
FR Vessant: raises 7640 to 10930 and is all-in
Metzy 100: folds
Uncalled bet (7640) returned to FR Vessant
He has 22. Fuck that.
*** FLOP *** [Kh Kc 5h]
Give me a 5, Q or A.
Three hands later.
PokerStars Game #30113152574: Tournament #175252758, $30+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2009/07/05 6:30:31 ET
Table '175252758 44' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Snooze7am (6775 in chips)
Seat 2: Muso01 (5150 in chips)
Seat 3: jesse6520 (4522 in chips)
Seat 4: Metzy 100 (10251 in chips)
Seat 5: aironevolant (4819 in chips)
Seat 6: HyperR_NL (11508 in chips)
Seat 7: FR Vessant (7440 in chips)
Seat 8: Brick7047 (1180 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 9: kaktus1965 (6550 in chips)
FR Vessant: posts small blind 100
Brick7047: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [6s 6h]
kaktus1965: folds
Snooze7am: folds
Muso01: folds
jesse6520: folds
Metzy 100: folds
aironevolant: calls 200
HyperR_NL: calls 200
FR Vessant: raises 800 to 1000
Hoping to get Hyper to fold and isolate the other guy.
Brick7047: folds
aironevolant: calls 800
You simply will not believe what he limpcalled with.
HyperR_NL: folds
*** FLOP *** [Ad 2d 4s]
FR Vessant: bets 6440 and is all-in
Not afraid of the ace. The fish would have raised if he had one.
aironevolant: calls 3819 and is all-in
He snapcalls with Td4d.
I don't ask how come a fish can call with Td4d in the first place, or how he can call a raise with it. I ask why he must fucking hit the flop. Could he not just have missed?
Uncalled bet (2621) returned to FR Vessant
*** TURN *** [Ad 2d 4s] [7d]
OMG.
Oh well. Still alive, right?
PokerStars Game #30113244440: Tournament #175252758, $30+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2009/07/05 6:36:02 ET
Table '175252758 44' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Snooze7am (6975 in chips)
Seat 2: Muso01 (4450 in chips)
Seat 3: Ozknackers (6930 in chips)
Seat 4: Metzy 100 (9851 in chips)
Seat 5: aironevolant (16060 in chips)
Seat 6: HyperR_NL (10808 in chips)
Seat 7: FR Vessant (2921 in chips)
Seat 8: Brick7047 (880 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 9: kaktus1965 (6250 in chips)
FR Vessant: posts small blind 100
Brick7047: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Ad Jh]
kaktus1965: folds
Snooze7am: folds
Muso01: folds
Ozknackers: folds
Metzy 100: raises 200 to 400
aironevolant: calls 400
HyperR_NL: folds
FR Vessant: raises 2521 to 2921 and is all-in
Brick7047: folds
Metzy 100: calls 2521
aironevolant: folds
*** FLOP *** [Kd Th Kh]
*** TURN *** [Kd Th Kh] [9h]
*** RIVER *** [Kd Th Kh 9h] [4c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
FR Vessant: shows [Ad Jh] (a pair of Kings)
Metzy 100: shows [Ts 9s] (two pair, Kings and Tens)
Wrong.
Unreal. That's some of the worst poker you'll ever see and in each case I was on the receiving end of it. Yet again. It sucks though. I don't normally play $33 buyins, I'm so risk averse. And I was absolutely cruising, playing well, with an above-average stack when bang! Sigh.
PokerStars Game #30113095585: Tournament #175252758, $30+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2009/07/05 6:27:03 ET
Table '175252758 44' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Snooze7am (6775 in chips)
Seat 2: Muso01 (6350 in chips)
Seat 3: jesse6520 (2211 in chips)
Seat 4: Metzy 100 (11151 in chips)
Seat 5: aironevolant (3290 in chips)
Seat 6: HyperR_NL (9758 in chips)
Seat 7: FR Vessant (10930 in chips)
Seat 8: Brick7047 (1180 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 9: kaktus1965 (6550 in chips)
jesse6520: posts small blind 100
Metzy 100: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Ac Qh]
aironevolant: calls 200
Horrible fish.
HyperR_NL: folds
FR Vessant: raises 600 to 800
So I make an isoraise.
Brick7047: folds
kaktus1965: folds
Brick7047 is disconnected
Snooze7am: folds
Muso01: folds
jesse6520: folds
Metzy 100: calls 600
Another unbelievable fish.
aironevolant: raises 2490 to 3290 and is all-in
I just don't believe he's limpreraising a big hand. I'm thinking it's probably a small pair, and I have the overlay to take it on.
FR Vessant: raises 7640 to 10930 and is all-in
Metzy 100: folds
Uncalled bet (7640) returned to FR Vessant
He has 22. Fuck that.
*** FLOP *** [Kh Kc 5h]
Give me a 5, Q or A.
Three hands later.
PokerStars Game #30113152574: Tournament #175252758, $30+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2009/07/05 6:30:31 ET
Table '175252758 44' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Snooze7am (6775 in chips)
Seat 2: Muso01 (5150 in chips)
Seat 3: jesse6520 (4522 in chips)
Seat 4: Metzy 100 (10251 in chips)
Seat 5: aironevolant (4819 in chips)
Seat 6: HyperR_NL (11508 in chips)
Seat 7: FR Vessant (7440 in chips)
Seat 8: Brick7047 (1180 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 9: kaktus1965 (6550 in chips)
FR Vessant: posts small blind 100
Brick7047: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [6s 6h]
kaktus1965: folds
Snooze7am: folds
Muso01: folds
jesse6520: folds
Metzy 100: folds
aironevolant: calls 200
HyperR_NL: calls 200
FR Vessant: raises 800 to 1000
Hoping to get Hyper to fold and isolate the other guy.
Brick7047: folds
aironevolant: calls 800
You simply will not believe what he limpcalled with.
HyperR_NL: folds
*** FLOP *** [Ad 2d 4s]
FR Vessant: bets 6440 and is all-in
Not afraid of the ace. The fish would have raised if he had one.
aironevolant: calls 3819 and is all-in
He snapcalls with Td4d.
I don't ask how come a fish can call with Td4d in the first place, or how he can call a raise with it. I ask why he must fucking hit the flop. Could he not just have missed?
Uncalled bet (2621) returned to FR Vessant
*** TURN *** [Ad 2d 4s] [7d]
OMG.
Oh well. Still alive, right?
PokerStars Game #30113244440: Tournament #175252758, $30+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2009/07/05 6:36:02 ET
Table '175252758 44' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Snooze7am (6975 in chips)
Seat 2: Muso01 (4450 in chips)
Seat 3: Ozknackers (6930 in chips)
Seat 4: Metzy 100 (9851 in chips)
Seat 5: aironevolant (16060 in chips)
Seat 6: HyperR_NL (10808 in chips)
Seat 7: FR Vessant (2921 in chips)
Seat 8: Brick7047 (880 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 9: kaktus1965 (6250 in chips)
FR Vessant: posts small blind 100
Brick7047: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Ad Jh]
kaktus1965: folds
Snooze7am: folds
Muso01: folds
Ozknackers: folds
Metzy 100: raises 200 to 400
aironevolant: calls 400
HyperR_NL: folds
FR Vessant: raises 2521 to 2921 and is all-in
Brick7047: folds
Metzy 100: calls 2521
aironevolant: folds
*** FLOP *** [Kd Th Kh]
*** TURN *** [Kd Th Kh] [9h]
*** RIVER *** [Kd Th Kh 9h] [4c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
FR Vessant: shows [Ad Jh] (a pair of Kings)
Metzy 100: shows [Ts 9s] (two pair, Kings and Tens)
Wrong.
Unreal. That's some of the worst poker you'll ever see and in each case I was on the receiving end of it. Yet again. It sucks though. I don't normally play $33 buyins, I'm so risk averse. And I was absolutely cruising, playing well, with an above-average stack when bang! Sigh.
Thursday, 2 July 2009
Goodbye to all that
I seriously believe I will not make an 8,000th post on 2p2. I have used it as a timewaster more than a learning tool, and of course, I like to help others if I can, but I doubt I'm actually good enough to be of that much benefit to anyone.
So I'm going to post a hot chick here and that will do me for 2p2. No one will care; least of all me.
So I'm going to post a hot chick here and that will do me for 2p2. No one will care; least of all me.
Moving up blues, reprise
So Dr Zen, I hear you moved up to the 22s permanently. How has that been going?
Well, I got a third:
PokerStars Game #30004948785: Tournament #176205984, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2009/07/02 0:25:12 ET
Table '176205984 1' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 4: Vegaas (2220 in chips)
Seat 6: zewowwee (9254 in chips)
Seat 9: FR Vessant (2026 in chips)
FR Vessant: posts small blind 100
Vegaas: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Ah 2d]
zewowwee: calls 200
Has limped, I am not kidding, every single hand ITM since he took a big pot from the other fish.
FR Vessant: raises 1826 to 2026 and is all-in
Vegaas: folds
zewowwee: calls 1826
He has KJ.
*** FLOP *** [3s Qc Js]
Nice.
Next I just about bust when my AQ hits on a 557Q board against slowplayed 77, but I fight back until:
PokerStars Game #30004665227: Tournament #176206581, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2009/07/02 0:11:03 ET
Table '176206581 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Memahair (2985 in chips)
Seat 3: orange13 (1340 in chips)
Seat 4: FR Vessant (850 in chips)
Seat 5: Russ186 (3870 in chips)
Seat 9: CoachDamey (4455 in chips)
CoachDamey: posts small blind 75
Memahair: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Td Ac]
orange13: folds
FR Vessant: raises 700 to 850 and is all-in
Russ186: calls 850
CoachDamey: folds
Memahair: folds
*** FLOP *** [5d Qs 3s]
*** TURN *** [5d Qs 3s] [Qc]
*** RIVER *** [5d Qs 3s Qc] [Th]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
FR Vessant: shows [Td Ac] (two pair, Queens and Tens)
Russ186: shows [Ad Ah] (two pair, Aces and Queens)
FML.
PokerStars Game #30005684747: Tournament #176215326, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2009/07/02 1:04:09 ET
Table '176215326 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 2: Ricardo Qu. (4050 in chips)
Seat 3: FR Vessant (1355 in chips)
Seat 4: jbashir111 (1810 in chips)
Seat 6: boonwatt (3685 in chips)
Seat 7: geminiJules (2600 in chips)
Ricardo Qu.: posts small blind 50
FR Vessant: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [6d Tc]
jbashir111: folds
boonwatt: folds
geminiJules: folds
Ricardo Qu.: calls 50
This guy's a winning player, but he will complete pretty wide.
FR Vessant: raises 1255 to 1355 and is all-in
Pretty standard.
Ricardo Qu.: calls 1255
With KJ. That's pretty indefensible. He is basically gambling because he has no reason to think my range isn't strong here. I find it truly astonishing that a guy can be a winning player at the 22s when he's willing to play so badly.
The standard, and correct, play is to just raise and steal the blinds. "Trapping" with KJ is retarded. You miss most flops and give away your chips.
*** FLOP *** [Jc 2h 3d]
Nice.
PokerStars Game #30005829843: Tournament #176215949, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2009/07/02 1:12:31 ET
Table '176215949 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: daveyjhiyo (4370 in chips)
Seat 4: FR Vessant (1495 in chips)
Seat 6: landonryan9 (1840 in chips)
Seat 8: BadBeat_Brat (1040 in chips)
Seat 9: geminiJules (4755 in chips)
FR Vessant: posts small blind 75
landonryan9: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Tc Kc]
BadBeat_Brat: folds
geminiJules: folds
daveyjhiyo: folds
FR Vessant: raises 1345 to 1495 and is all-in
Standard shove for 10BB. I've barely played a hand all tourney of course.
landonryan9: calls 1345
He has AT.
*** FLOP *** [Th 8c 8s]
Lovely to hit my pair.
PokerStars Game #30006560500: Tournament #176220013, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2009/07/02 1:56:43 ET
Table '176220013 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: FR Vessant (1512 in chips)
Seat 2: dippo (2447 in chips)
Seat 3: expertkotlas (3800 in chips)
Seat 4: sniperjtubbs (3986 in chips)
Seat 7: JamesDoyle (1755 in chips)
FR Vessant: posts small blind 50
dippo: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Qc Qd]
expertkotlas: folds
sniperjtubbs: folds
JamesDoyle: folds
FR Vessant: raises 200 to 300
dippo: calls 200
Fish, so he has a pretty wide range.
*** FLOP *** [6h 7d Kd]
FR Vessant: bets 1212 and is all-in
Hope to get called by 6x, 7x, straight draws, flush draws, pairs. My hand looks a lot like AQ/AJ that has missed, so these hands do call a lot. I could play it slower and not get stacked when he has...
dippo: calls 1212
K7. But he would have called with J7, so what can you do?
*** TURN *** [6h 7d Kd] [4d]
Can I resuck to the flush?
*** RIVER *** [6h 7d Kd 4d] [6s]
Are you fucking kidding?
Can these fish miss just once vs my big hands?
PokerStars Game #30006734585: Tournament #176220025, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2009/07/02 2:07:49 ET
Table '176220025 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: FR Vessant (1445 in chips)
Seat 2: frofessor (2215 in chips)
Seat 4: RJ_3 (2635 in chips)
Seat 6: bobby198325 (2095 in chips)
Seat 8: bunest (2105 in chips)
Seat 9: greywôlf (3005 in chips)
greywôlf: posts small blind 75
FR Vessant: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [As 3s]
frofessor: folds
RJ_3: calls 150
Has limpfolded already and is playing a very wide range.
bobby198325: folds
bunest: folds
greywôlf: folds
FR Vessant: raises 1295 to 1445 and is all-in
I shove because he should fold most of what he has, and I'm going to be ahead if he doesn't.
RJ_3: calls 1295
He snapcalls with JT.
I mean, wtf. He claims he "knew it was a coinflip". Which is bullshit, because I can easily have hands that are much better than a coinflip against him, and even the hand I have is 57-43.
And even if he had a coinflip, he should fold ofc.
*** FLOP *** [3d Qc 8c]
*** TURN *** [3d Qc 8c] [7d]
*** RIVER *** [3d Qc 8c 7d] [Ts]
FUCK. THIS. SHIT.
And here are that guy's figures on Sharkscope: 1,217 $1 $5 13% $1,033.
How? How the fuck are these guys winning? And does that say something about me? If this guy can luckbox his way to a grand in 1K games, maybe I'm just luckier than I am good?
Is the A3s shove good? It seems good to me. I'd shoved over once before, but he probably didn't remember, and anyway, I was right that I was ahead of him. I shouldn't mind so much being called by JT. Well, I wouldn't, but every aggressive play I have been making seems to be leading to busting.
Oh well. This is going to happen, I suppose. I have to bear with it. I'm pretty sure that the occasional wild play makes me money, so I shouldn't stop doing it. I'd like to see them get punished when they make awful calls though, but what ever changed there?
Well, I got a third:
PokerStars Game #30004948785: Tournament #176205984, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2009/07/02 0:25:12 ET
Table '176205984 1' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 4: Vegaas (2220 in chips)
Seat 6: zewowwee (9254 in chips)
Seat 9: FR Vessant (2026 in chips)
FR Vessant: posts small blind 100
Vegaas: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Ah 2d]
zewowwee: calls 200
Has limped, I am not kidding, every single hand ITM since he took a big pot from the other fish.
FR Vessant: raises 1826 to 2026 and is all-in
Vegaas: folds
zewowwee: calls 1826
He has KJ.
*** FLOP *** [3s Qc Js]
Nice.
Next I just about bust when my AQ hits on a 557Q board against slowplayed 77, but I fight back until:
PokerStars Game #30004665227: Tournament #176206581, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2009/07/02 0:11:03 ET
Table '176206581 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Memahair (2985 in chips)
Seat 3: orange13 (1340 in chips)
Seat 4: FR Vessant (850 in chips)
Seat 5: Russ186 (3870 in chips)
Seat 9: CoachDamey (4455 in chips)
CoachDamey: posts small blind 75
Memahair: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Td Ac]
orange13: folds
FR Vessant: raises 700 to 850 and is all-in
Russ186: calls 850
CoachDamey: folds
Memahair: folds
*** FLOP *** [5d Qs 3s]
*** TURN *** [5d Qs 3s] [Qc]
*** RIVER *** [5d Qs 3s Qc] [Th]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
FR Vessant: shows [Td Ac] (two pair, Queens and Tens)
Russ186: shows [Ad Ah] (two pair, Aces and Queens)
FML.
PokerStars Game #30005684747: Tournament #176215326, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2009/07/02 1:04:09 ET
Table '176215326 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 2: Ricardo Qu. (4050 in chips)
Seat 3: FR Vessant (1355 in chips)
Seat 4: jbashir111 (1810 in chips)
Seat 6: boonwatt (3685 in chips)
Seat 7: geminiJules (2600 in chips)
Ricardo Qu.: posts small blind 50
FR Vessant: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [6d Tc]
jbashir111: folds
boonwatt: folds
geminiJules: folds
Ricardo Qu.: calls 50
This guy's a winning player, but he will complete pretty wide.
FR Vessant: raises 1255 to 1355 and is all-in
Pretty standard.
Ricardo Qu.: calls 1255
With KJ. That's pretty indefensible. He is basically gambling because he has no reason to think my range isn't strong here. I find it truly astonishing that a guy can be a winning player at the 22s when he's willing to play so badly.
The standard, and correct, play is to just raise and steal the blinds. "Trapping" with KJ is retarded. You miss most flops and give away your chips.
*** FLOP *** [Jc 2h 3d]
Nice.
PokerStars Game #30005829843: Tournament #176215949, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2009/07/02 1:12:31 ET
Table '176215949 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: daveyjhiyo (4370 in chips)
Seat 4: FR Vessant (1495 in chips)
Seat 6: landonryan9 (1840 in chips)
Seat 8: BadBeat_Brat (1040 in chips)
Seat 9: geminiJules (4755 in chips)
FR Vessant: posts small blind 75
landonryan9: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Tc Kc]
BadBeat_Brat: folds
geminiJules: folds
daveyjhiyo: folds
FR Vessant: raises 1345 to 1495 and is all-in
Standard shove for 10BB. I've barely played a hand all tourney of course.
landonryan9: calls 1345
He has AT.
*** FLOP *** [Th 8c 8s]
Lovely to hit my pair.
PokerStars Game #30006560500: Tournament #176220013, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2009/07/02 1:56:43 ET
Table '176220013 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: FR Vessant (1512 in chips)
Seat 2: dippo (2447 in chips)
Seat 3: expertkotlas (3800 in chips)
Seat 4: sniperjtubbs (3986 in chips)
Seat 7: JamesDoyle (1755 in chips)
FR Vessant: posts small blind 50
dippo: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Qc Qd]
expertkotlas: folds
sniperjtubbs: folds
JamesDoyle: folds
FR Vessant: raises 200 to 300
dippo: calls 200
Fish, so he has a pretty wide range.
*** FLOP *** [6h 7d Kd]
FR Vessant: bets 1212 and is all-in
Hope to get called by 6x, 7x, straight draws, flush draws, pairs. My hand looks a lot like AQ/AJ that has missed, so these hands do call a lot. I could play it slower and not get stacked when he has...
dippo: calls 1212
K7. But he would have called with J7, so what can you do?
*** TURN *** [6h 7d Kd] [4d]
Can I resuck to the flush?
*** RIVER *** [6h 7d Kd 4d] [6s]
Are you fucking kidding?
Can these fish miss just once vs my big hands?
PokerStars Game #30006734585: Tournament #176220025, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2009/07/02 2:07:49 ET
Table '176220025 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: FR Vessant (1445 in chips)
Seat 2: frofessor (2215 in chips)
Seat 4: RJ_3 (2635 in chips)
Seat 6: bobby198325 (2095 in chips)
Seat 8: bunest (2105 in chips)
Seat 9: greywôlf (3005 in chips)
greywôlf: posts small blind 75
FR Vessant: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [As 3s]
frofessor: folds
RJ_3: calls 150
Has limpfolded already and is playing a very wide range.
bobby198325: folds
bunest: folds
greywôlf: folds
FR Vessant: raises 1295 to 1445 and is all-in
I shove because he should fold most of what he has, and I'm going to be ahead if he doesn't.
RJ_3: calls 1295
He snapcalls with JT.
I mean, wtf. He claims he "knew it was a coinflip". Which is bullshit, because I can easily have hands that are much better than a coinflip against him, and even the hand I have is 57-43.
And even if he had a coinflip, he should fold ofc.
*** FLOP *** [3d Qc 8c]
*** TURN *** [3d Qc 8c] [7d]
*** RIVER *** [3d Qc 8c 7d] [Ts]
FUCK. THIS. SHIT.
And here are that guy's figures on Sharkscope: 1,217 $1 $5 13% $1,033.
How? How the fuck are these guys winning? And does that say something about me? If this guy can luckbox his way to a grand in 1K games, maybe I'm just luckier than I am good?
Is the A3s shove good? It seems good to me. I'd shoved over once before, but he probably didn't remember, and anyway, I was right that I was ahead of him. I shouldn't mind so much being called by JT. Well, I wouldn't, but every aggressive play I have been making seems to be leading to busting.
Oh well. This is going to happen, I suppose. I have to bear with it. I'm pretty sure that the occasional wild play makes me money, so I shouldn't stop doing it. I'd like to see them get punished when they make awful calls though, but what ever changed there?
Wednesday, 1 July 2009
Diagf fishy
I hate these fish. Some days you just want to kill them.
PokerStars Game #29973031681: Tournament #175986535, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2009/07/01 4:20:52 ET
Table '175986535 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: opferlamm11 (2160 in chips)
Seat 2: FR Vessant (1660 in chips)
Seat 3: waveydude (1360 in chips)
Seat 4: fobosca (1685 in chips)
Seat 7: Makaveli1977 (2160 in chips)
Seat 8: bizzleburt77 (3000 in chips)
Seat 9: daveymck (1475 in chips)
FR Vessant: posts small blind 75
waveydude: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Ad Qh]
fobosca: folds
Makaveli1977: folds
bizzleburt77: folds
daveymck: raises 300 to 450
opferlamm11: folds
FR Vessant: raises 1210 to 1660 and is all-in
I have not threebet all tourney.
waveydude: folds
daveymck: calls 1025 and is all-in
This guy won some money at the 5s, but not by playing well, obv. He has KT.
Uncalled bet (185) returned to FR Vessant
*** FLOP *** [8c Ts 8d]
*** TURN *** [8c Ts 8d] [Kc]
*** RIVER *** [8c Ts 8d Kc] [3d]
Fuck this.
Anyway, I get into the money with the same idiot and another even worse fish. I have threebet once in this tourney, and I have folded several raises to threebets (the fish keeps picking the bluffs and missing the value hands).
PokerStars Game #29973159413: Tournament #175986573, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2009/07/01 4:30:46 ET
Table '175986573 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: daveymck (3940 in chips)
Seat 2: FR Vessant (6640 in chips)
Seat 3: genevajc (2920 in chips)
daveymck: posts small blind 100
FR Vessant: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Kd As]
genevajc: raises 400 to 600
daveymck: folds
FR Vessant: raises 6040 to 6640 and is all-in
genevajc: calls 2320 and is all-in
He has A4s. That's a supereasy fold, Mr Fish.
But we're sweet, right? On our way to glory?
Uncalled bet (3720) returned to FR Vessant
*** FLOP *** [Ad 3s Ac]
*** TURN *** [Ad 3s Ac] [4c]
Nope.
*** RIVER *** [Ad 3s Ac 4c] [2s]
Later, he shoves for 14BB and I call with A8. It's not the first time he has done a ridic overshove, but this time he has TT, and it's gg me.
It's sucking that I cannot turn my cashes into wins. I suppose I should be content that I'm winning, but I obviously have some problems in the money. I'm not sure what else I can do though. I got my money in yet again as a 70/30 favourite and the fish sucked out.
These games didn't help:
PokerStars Game #29972344066: Tournament #175986098, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2009/07/01 3:28:42 ET
Table '175986098 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: magnum1288 (290 in chips)
Seat 2: NC17ezp (2010 in chips)
Seat 3: Vigilante4 (1530 in chips)
Seat 4: IBda12beatU (2520 in chips)
Seat 5: zach915m (1410 in chips)
Seat 6: FR Vessant (1440 in chips)
Seat 7: Jonah SJ (1550 in chips)
Seat 8: daveymck (1430 in chips)
Seat 9: dckcdc (1320 in chips)
dckcdc: posts small blind 10
magnum1288: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Td Ts]
NC17ezp: calls 20
Vigilante4: calls 20
IBda12beatU: raises 60 to 80
zach915m: folds
FR Vessant: calls 80
Jonah SJ: folds
daveymck: folds
dckcdc: folds
magnum1288: folds
NC17ezp: calls 60
Vigilante4: calls 60
*** FLOP *** [3c 4d 3s]
NC17ezp: checks
Vigilante4: checks
IBda12beatU: bets 160
I didn't notice that this was preflop raiser, which was stupid of me.
FR Vessant: raises 1200 to 1360 and is all-in
And I definitely shouldn't have shoved.
NC17ezp: folds
Vigilante4: folds
IBda12beatU: calls 1200
*** TURN *** [3c 4d 3s] [3d]
*** RIVER *** [3c 4d 3s 3d] [6d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
IBda12beatU: shows [Kc Kh] (a full house, Threes full of Kings)
Whoops.
Oh well, missing the odd one is the price you have to pay for not paying attention, but there's no excuse for this next one, except the previous hand:
PokerStars Game #29972293262: Tournament #175985791, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2009/07/01 3:24:51 ET
Table '175985791 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: jbashir111 (1610 in chips)
Seat 2: WHITE1340 (1480 in chips)
Seat 3: NickelBeaver (1415 in chips)
Seat 4: FR Vessant (1150 in chips)
Seat 5: dougbonk (1470 in chips)
Seat 6: brayden126 (1915 in chips)
Seat 7: zach915m (1460 in chips)
Seat 8: el_vacan (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: Southwyck (1500 in chips)
brayden126: posts small blind 10
zach915m: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Kc Ks]
el_vacan: folds
Southwyck: folds
jbashir111: folds
WHITE1340: folds
NickelBeaver: folds
FR Vessant: raises 60 to 80
dougbonk: folds
brayden126: calls 70
zach915m: calls 60
*** FLOP *** [7h 8s Ah]
Always a fucking ace!
brayden126: bets 60
zach915m: calls 60
FR Vessant: calls 60
Dunno why I called. I suppose they could both have flush draws. In my dreams.
*** TURN *** [7h 8s Ah] [6h]
brayden126: bets 60
zach915m: raises 160 to 220
FR Vessant: folds
Obviously, even the biggest fish (me) is going to fold there, so I do.
brayden126: calls 160
*** RIVER *** [7h 8s Ah 6h] [Qh]
brayden126: checks
zach915m: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
brayden126: shows [As 2d] (a pair of Aces)
zach915m: shows [7c 7d] (three of a kind, Sevens)
It's really nice when both callers suck out on you. The second guy shouldn't even have been in the pot. Yeah, I know he has set odds etc etc, but see, he hit his set and did I stack off? No, I didn't, and I wouldn't even if I had had AK, because I scoped him before the game and I can see that he wins too much to stack off with worse on that flop.
So the next hand:
PokerStars Game #29972302892: Tournament #175985791, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2009/07/01 3:25:35 ET
Table '175985791 1' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: jbashir111 (1610 in chips)
Seat 2: WHITE1340 (1480 in chips)
Seat 3: NickelBeaver (1415 in chips)
Seat 4: FR Vessant (1010 in chips)
Seat 5: dougbonk (1470 in chips)
Seat 6: brayden126 (1555 in chips)
Seat 7: zach915m (1960 in chips)
Seat 8: el_vacan (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: Southwyck (1500 in chips)
zach915m: posts small blind 10
el_vacan: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Kd As]
Southwyck: folds
jbashir111: folds
WHITE1340: folds
FR Vessant said, "sigh"
NickelBeaver: folds
FR Vessant: raises 60 to 80
dougbonk: calls 80
brayden126: calls 80
FR Vessant said, "always an ace when you raise with KK"
Yeah true.
zach915m: raises 245 to 325
OMG. It's going to be really hard to fold here. He should be very strong here.
el_vacan: raises 1175 to 1500 and is all-in
No idea about this guy, but I am going to make what I think is a terrible call. I'm likely to be allin three ways with AK and probably two strong hands against me.
FR Vessant: calls 930 and is all-in
dougbonk: folds
brayden126: folds
zach915m: folds
WTF. It's hard to imagine what he can 3bet me with that he now folds. My stats had looked a bit dodgy, I suppose, because I'd been dealt about six pairs early. However, it's not like I had raised often. But I think some players just play their strat without caring what others are doing. His probably says "3bet AQ+, 99+" or something like that, and it's just a pity that there was the other guy in the hand.
Uncalled bet (490) returned to el_vacan
Who has QQ unfortunately.
*** FLOP *** [4h 4d Jd]
*** TURN *** [4h 4d Jd] [7h]
*** RIVER *** [4h 4d Jd 7h] [Jc]
Still, I'm not complaining too much. Elsewhere, I rode my luck in a 22:
PokerStars Game #29972790320: Tournament #175983606, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2009/07/01 4:02:48 ET
Table '175983606 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: camo100 (585 in chips)
Seat 2: tleathem (2730 in chips)
Seat 3: FR Vessant (2080 in chips)
Seat 8: dekka4409 (6420 in chips)
Seat 9: brav3hearted (1685 in chips)
tleathem: posts small blind 75
FR Vessant: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [As 2c]
dekka4409: folds
brav3hearted: folds
camo100: folds
tleathem: calls 75
A very limpy fish, so stealing his limp is going to be +EV.
FR Vessant: raises 1930 to 2080 and is all-in
tleathem: calls 1930
He has AQ. See, these guys think they're trapping you, but I take that into account when I shove over.
*** FLOP *** [2d 7d 9c]
BOOM!
*** TURN *** [2d 7d 9c] [7c]
*** RIVER *** [2d 7d 9c 7c] [8c]
And later:
PokerStars Game #29973000600: Tournament #175983606, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2009/07/01 4:18:30 ET
Table '175983606 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 3: FR Vessant (2290 in chips)
Seat 8: dekka4409 (8000 in chips)
Seat 9: brav3hearted (3210 in chips)
FR Vessant: posts small blind 100
dekka4409: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Ac Jc]
brav3hearted: calls 200
Has limped a ton.
brav3hearted said, "o yea"
FR Vessant: raises 2090 to 2290 and is all-in
My hand is easily good enough against his range but he will likely fold most of it.
dekka4409: folds
brav3hearted: calls 2090
brav3hearted said, "have to call hope im not dominated"
Has 99
*** FLOP *** [9h 8s Qh]
Oh shit.
dekka4409 said, "JJ"
Definitely lying.
brav3hearted said, "yes"
Is it?
*** TURN *** [9h 8s Qh] [2s]
*** RIVER *** [9h 8s Qh 2s] [Tc]
OMG! LOL.
So he was pretty bitter about that and made his exit shortly after. So dekka starts playing ultra weirdly, as fishes do when they feel outmatched (or sometimes just because that's how they play heads up, I dunno). She is raising just way too often, and threebetting a ton too, so:
PokerStars Game #29973110260: Tournament #175983606, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2009/07/01 4:26:59 ET
Table '175983606 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 3: FR Vessant (5775 in chips)
Seat 8: dekka4409 (7725 in chips)
FR Vessant: posts the ante 25
dekka4409: posts the ante 25
dekka4409: posts small blind 100
FR Vessant: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Tc Kh]
dekka4409: raises 400 to 600
FR Vessant: raises 5150 to 5750 and is all-in
dekka4409: folds
Keep her honest. And I'm thinking when I do it, that she will likely call with a bad hand if I do it again, because she can bust me. So two hands later:
PokerStars Game #29973123456: Tournament #175983606, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2009/07/01 4:28:01 ET
Table '175983606 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 3: FR Vessant (6275 in chips)
Seat 8: dekka4409 (7225 in chips)
FR Vessant: posts the ante 25
dekka4409: posts the ante 25
dekka4409: posts small blind 100
FR Vessant: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Ah Kh]
dekka4409: raises 600 to 800
FR Vessant: raises 5450 to 6250 and is all-in
dekka4409: calls 5450
76s. A fine call. Normally, they proceed to hit a 7 or a 6, or both.
*** FLOP *** [8h 3d Qs]
FR Vessant said, "nh"
Naughty!
*** TURN *** [8h 3d Qs] [3c]
*** RIVER *** [8h 3d Qs 3c] [9s]
But not this time, and I went on to win. Veeeerrrrry satisfying.
PokerStars Game #29973031681: Tournament #175986535, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2009/07/01 4:20:52 ET
Table '175986535 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: opferlamm11 (2160 in chips)
Seat 2: FR Vessant (1660 in chips)
Seat 3: waveydude (1360 in chips)
Seat 4: fobosca (1685 in chips)
Seat 7: Makaveli1977 (2160 in chips)
Seat 8: bizzleburt77 (3000 in chips)
Seat 9: daveymck (1475 in chips)
FR Vessant: posts small blind 75
waveydude: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Ad Qh]
fobosca: folds
Makaveli1977: folds
bizzleburt77: folds
daveymck: raises 300 to 450
opferlamm11: folds
FR Vessant: raises 1210 to 1660 and is all-in
I have not threebet all tourney.
waveydude: folds
daveymck: calls 1025 and is all-in
This guy won some money at the 5s, but not by playing well, obv. He has KT.
Uncalled bet (185) returned to FR Vessant
*** FLOP *** [8c Ts 8d]
*** TURN *** [8c Ts 8d] [Kc]
*** RIVER *** [8c Ts 8d Kc] [3d]
Fuck this.
Anyway, I get into the money with the same idiot and another even worse fish. I have threebet once in this tourney, and I have folded several raises to threebets (the fish keeps picking the bluffs and missing the value hands).
PokerStars Game #29973159413: Tournament #175986573, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2009/07/01 4:30:46 ET
Table '175986573 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: daveymck (3940 in chips)
Seat 2: FR Vessant (6640 in chips)
Seat 3: genevajc (2920 in chips)
daveymck: posts small blind 100
FR Vessant: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Kd As]
genevajc: raises 400 to 600
daveymck: folds
FR Vessant: raises 6040 to 6640 and is all-in
genevajc: calls 2320 and is all-in
He has A4s. That's a supereasy fold, Mr Fish.
But we're sweet, right? On our way to glory?
Uncalled bet (3720) returned to FR Vessant
*** FLOP *** [Ad 3s Ac]
*** TURN *** [Ad 3s Ac] [4c]
Nope.
*** RIVER *** [Ad 3s Ac 4c] [2s]
Later, he shoves for 14BB and I call with A8. It's not the first time he has done a ridic overshove, but this time he has TT, and it's gg me.
It's sucking that I cannot turn my cashes into wins. I suppose I should be content that I'm winning, but I obviously have some problems in the money. I'm not sure what else I can do though. I got my money in yet again as a 70/30 favourite and the fish sucked out.
These games didn't help:
PokerStars Game #29972344066: Tournament #175986098, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2009/07/01 3:28:42 ET
Table '175986098 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: magnum1288 (290 in chips)
Seat 2: NC17ezp (2010 in chips)
Seat 3: Vigilante4 (1530 in chips)
Seat 4: IBda12beatU (2520 in chips)
Seat 5: zach915m (1410 in chips)
Seat 6: FR Vessant (1440 in chips)
Seat 7: Jonah SJ (1550 in chips)
Seat 8: daveymck (1430 in chips)
Seat 9: dckcdc (1320 in chips)
dckcdc: posts small blind 10
magnum1288: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Td Ts]
NC17ezp: calls 20
Vigilante4: calls 20
IBda12beatU: raises 60 to 80
zach915m: folds
FR Vessant: calls 80
Jonah SJ: folds
daveymck: folds
dckcdc: folds
magnum1288: folds
NC17ezp: calls 60
Vigilante4: calls 60
*** FLOP *** [3c 4d 3s]
NC17ezp: checks
Vigilante4: checks
IBda12beatU: bets 160
I didn't notice that this was preflop raiser, which was stupid of me.
FR Vessant: raises 1200 to 1360 and is all-in
And I definitely shouldn't have shoved.
NC17ezp: folds
Vigilante4: folds
IBda12beatU: calls 1200
*** TURN *** [3c 4d 3s] [3d]
*** RIVER *** [3c 4d 3s 3d] [6d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
IBda12beatU: shows [Kc Kh] (a full house, Threes full of Kings)
Whoops.
Oh well, missing the odd one is the price you have to pay for not paying attention, but there's no excuse for this next one, except the previous hand:
PokerStars Game #29972293262: Tournament #175985791, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2009/07/01 3:24:51 ET
Table '175985791 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: jbashir111 (1610 in chips)
Seat 2: WHITE1340 (1480 in chips)
Seat 3: NickelBeaver (1415 in chips)
Seat 4: FR Vessant (1150 in chips)
Seat 5: dougbonk (1470 in chips)
Seat 6: brayden126 (1915 in chips)
Seat 7: zach915m (1460 in chips)
Seat 8: el_vacan (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: Southwyck (1500 in chips)
brayden126: posts small blind 10
zach915m: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Kc Ks]
el_vacan: folds
Southwyck: folds
jbashir111: folds
WHITE1340: folds
NickelBeaver: folds
FR Vessant: raises 60 to 80
dougbonk: folds
brayden126: calls 70
zach915m: calls 60
*** FLOP *** [7h 8s Ah]
Always a fucking ace!
brayden126: bets 60
zach915m: calls 60
FR Vessant: calls 60
Dunno why I called. I suppose they could both have flush draws. In my dreams.
*** TURN *** [7h 8s Ah] [6h]
brayden126: bets 60
zach915m: raises 160 to 220
FR Vessant: folds
Obviously, even the biggest fish (me) is going to fold there, so I do.
brayden126: calls 160
*** RIVER *** [7h 8s Ah 6h] [Qh]
brayden126: checks
zach915m: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
brayden126: shows [As 2d] (a pair of Aces)
zach915m: shows [7c 7d] (three of a kind, Sevens)
It's really nice when both callers suck out on you. The second guy shouldn't even have been in the pot. Yeah, I know he has set odds etc etc, but see, he hit his set and did I stack off? No, I didn't, and I wouldn't even if I had had AK, because I scoped him before the game and I can see that he wins too much to stack off with worse on that flop.
So the next hand:
PokerStars Game #29972302892: Tournament #175985791, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2009/07/01 3:25:35 ET
Table '175985791 1' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: jbashir111 (1610 in chips)
Seat 2: WHITE1340 (1480 in chips)
Seat 3: NickelBeaver (1415 in chips)
Seat 4: FR Vessant (1010 in chips)
Seat 5: dougbonk (1470 in chips)
Seat 6: brayden126 (1555 in chips)
Seat 7: zach915m (1960 in chips)
Seat 8: el_vacan (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: Southwyck (1500 in chips)
zach915m: posts small blind 10
el_vacan: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Kd As]
Southwyck: folds
jbashir111: folds
WHITE1340: folds
FR Vessant said, "sigh"
NickelBeaver: folds
FR Vessant: raises 60 to 80
dougbonk: calls 80
brayden126: calls 80
FR Vessant said, "always an ace when you raise with KK"
Yeah true.
zach915m: raises 245 to 325
OMG. It's going to be really hard to fold here. He should be very strong here.
el_vacan: raises 1175 to 1500 and is all-in
No idea about this guy, but I am going to make what I think is a terrible call. I'm likely to be allin three ways with AK and probably two strong hands against me.
FR Vessant: calls 930 and is all-in
dougbonk: folds
brayden126: folds
zach915m: folds
WTF. It's hard to imagine what he can 3bet me with that he now folds. My stats had looked a bit dodgy, I suppose, because I'd been dealt about six pairs early. However, it's not like I had raised often. But I think some players just play their strat without caring what others are doing. His probably says "3bet AQ+, 99+" or something like that, and it's just a pity that there was the other guy in the hand.
Uncalled bet (490) returned to el_vacan
Who has QQ unfortunately.
*** FLOP *** [4h 4d Jd]
*** TURN *** [4h 4d Jd] [7h]
*** RIVER *** [4h 4d Jd 7h] [Jc]
Still, I'm not complaining too much. Elsewhere, I rode my luck in a 22:
PokerStars Game #29972790320: Tournament #175983606, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2009/07/01 4:02:48 ET
Table '175983606 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: camo100 (585 in chips)
Seat 2: tleathem (2730 in chips)
Seat 3: FR Vessant (2080 in chips)
Seat 8: dekka4409 (6420 in chips)
Seat 9: brav3hearted (1685 in chips)
tleathem: posts small blind 75
FR Vessant: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [As 2c]
dekka4409: folds
brav3hearted: folds
camo100: folds
tleathem: calls 75
A very limpy fish, so stealing his limp is going to be +EV.
FR Vessant: raises 1930 to 2080 and is all-in
tleathem: calls 1930
He has AQ. See, these guys think they're trapping you, but I take that into account when I shove over.
*** FLOP *** [2d 7d 9c]
BOOM!
*** TURN *** [2d 7d 9c] [7c]
*** RIVER *** [2d 7d 9c 7c] [8c]
And later:
PokerStars Game #29973000600: Tournament #175983606, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2009/07/01 4:18:30 ET
Table '175983606 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 3: FR Vessant (2290 in chips)
Seat 8: dekka4409 (8000 in chips)
Seat 9: brav3hearted (3210 in chips)
FR Vessant: posts small blind 100
dekka4409: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Ac Jc]
brav3hearted: calls 200
Has limped a ton.
brav3hearted said, "o yea"
FR Vessant: raises 2090 to 2290 and is all-in
My hand is easily good enough against his range but he will likely fold most of it.
dekka4409: folds
brav3hearted: calls 2090
brav3hearted said, "have to call hope im not dominated"
Has 99
*** FLOP *** [9h 8s Qh]
Oh shit.
dekka4409 said, "JJ"
Definitely lying.
brav3hearted said, "yes"
Is it?
*** TURN *** [9h 8s Qh] [2s]
*** RIVER *** [9h 8s Qh 2s] [Tc]
OMG! LOL.
So he was pretty bitter about that and made his exit shortly after. So dekka starts playing ultra weirdly, as fishes do when they feel outmatched (or sometimes just because that's how they play heads up, I dunno). She is raising just way too often, and threebetting a ton too, so:
PokerStars Game #29973110260: Tournament #175983606, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2009/07/01 4:26:59 ET
Table '175983606 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 3: FR Vessant (5775 in chips)
Seat 8: dekka4409 (7725 in chips)
FR Vessant: posts the ante 25
dekka4409: posts the ante 25
dekka4409: posts small blind 100
FR Vessant: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Tc Kh]
dekka4409: raises 400 to 600
FR Vessant: raises 5150 to 5750 and is all-in
dekka4409: folds
Keep her honest. And I'm thinking when I do it, that she will likely call with a bad hand if I do it again, because she can bust me. So two hands later:
PokerStars Game #29973123456: Tournament #175983606, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2009/07/01 4:28:01 ET
Table '175983606 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 3: FR Vessant (6275 in chips)
Seat 8: dekka4409 (7225 in chips)
FR Vessant: posts the ante 25
dekka4409: posts the ante 25
dekka4409: posts small blind 100
FR Vessant: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FR Vessant [Ah Kh]
dekka4409: raises 600 to 800
FR Vessant: raises 5450 to 6250 and is all-in
dekka4409: calls 5450
76s. A fine call. Normally, they proceed to hit a 7 or a 6, or both.
*** FLOP *** [8h 3d Qs]
FR Vessant said, "nh"
Naughty!
*** TURN *** [8h 3d Qs] [3c]
*** RIVER *** [8h 3d Qs 3c] [9s]
But not this time, and I went on to win. Veeeerrrrry satisfying.
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